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r ranson wrote:If permaculture was an art movement, what would it look like?
I often think permaculture-core would be a lot like HobbitCore meets Rivendell, but with a whole bunch more growing goodies and modern conveniences.
Christopher Weeks wrote:
Finally, while I was thinking about this, the word 'permacouture' popped into my head as a related design impulse (I know couture typically refers to sewing, but I also see it describing 'fashion lifestyle' sometimes). (I'm half disappointed and half excited to see that I wasn't the first person to use that word here: https://permies.com/t/206342)
One aesthetic bit that seems permaculturecore is the style of the cottage gardens but everything being edible, medicinal, etc.
r ranson wrote:
As much as I love cottagecore, it doesn't seem to have room for daily life like permaculture does
For me, gardening tells the story.
Permaculturecore gardener has old, repaired many times but it's hard to see for the dirt, clothes. Either big ass fork for digging taters or maybe some hand to soil action. Either way, dirty fingernails by the end of the day.
Nancy Reading wrote:I find it difficult to think that a single aesthetic covers permaculture. If I were going to summarise it would be "form follows function" design...
...But the form also could also be said to follow natural patterns.
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Ben Brownell wrote: a more locally evolved set of designs, techniques and stylistic touches that are well suited to a specific climate/eco/cultural context. In essence, there should be many different PC aesthetics, based on where you look on earth and who's invested the time in refining a distinctive yet practical look that holds up well enough to become relatively standardized.
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Christopher Weeks wrote:
Also, this has made me think about age. That Wikipedia article on cottagecore talks about it being a young person phenomenon, which feels legit -- my own kids are 30 and 23, and cottagecore speaks to the younger one. And there's been discussion here about the age of Permies and how it doesn't feel like young people are as likely to move in and engage. I wonder if they're being diverted by preoccupation with cottagecore fantasy instead of getting out and making it happen...or something.
K Kaba wrote:At first I was going to say take cottagecore, make it messy, and add a couple decades? But the way active permaculture "looks" runs a lot deeper than that.
Nicole Alderman wrote:
Christopher Weeks wrote:
Also, this has made me think about age. That Wikipedia article on cottagecore talks about it being a young person phenomenon, which feels legit -- my own kids are 30 and 23, and cottagecore speaks to the younger one. And there's been discussion here about the age of Permies and how it doesn't feel like young people are as likely to move in and engage. I wonder if they're being diverted by preoccupation with cottagecore fantasy instead of getting out and making it happen...or something.
I turned 40 this year, so I'm probably somewhere between you and your kids in age/demographic. I think a lot of why we don't see younger people is because they get their permaculture "fix" and connection on other forms of social media. A LOT of forums have switched to being largely on facebook. Many of the bigger ones keeps an online forum going, but their facebook group is HUGE and super active. The first that come to mind are MonsterFishkeepers.com which has the Monster Keeper facebook group, with 75.3K members, and Backyard Chickens, whose BYC facebook group has 1.5million members. My husband used to be a part of a bunch of fishkeeping forums...now he just joins facebook groups about them. It's a lot easier to just see some posts while you scroll through facebook or some other social media, then it is to hunt down a forum, remember to go to it, and post to it.
I honestly don't know how many younger people know forums exist, let alone how they work. Permies is normal for a forum, but quite different from facebook, instagram, and even Reddit. "Kids these days" often just search tik-tok for info, rather than google. It's harder to stumble upon permies that way.
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r ranson wrote:Underconsumptioncore sounds like it would fit nicely into permaculture-core.
This video is about applying it to art, but there is a lot of good there we could borrow for our quest for a permaculture aesthetic.
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Be nice.
Jeff Lindsey wrote:Area aesthetics- Pallets and pallet based structures, raised beds everywhere, composting areas vs composting bins, shelves of canned food, and a significant older book library. Animals, rock jacks, bio char barrels, various piles of sundry matter. Cast iron and stock pots.
Personal aesthetics- Repaired, stained and tattered work clothing. Tools on the person. Liberal use of shoe goop, a favorite pair of overalls, every car is a work vehicle in some way.
Cottage core, etc, is about a pseudo-nostalgia and FB dopamine stimulation. It presents a false picture of the life. We all know people, or know of people who have "moved out to the land" and been dismayed that homesteading is an endless process that is much harder than living in an apartment, van, or a suburban house.
Lauren Pfaff wrote:The buildings would vary by location due to varying needs for varying locations. For example, permaculture houses in Houston would focus on keeping cool, while permaculture houses in Alaska would need to focus on stay warm. I'm picturing using natural, locally available materials which would further add to the diversity of a permaculture aesthetic. Reused and upcycled materials and objects would also be used to prevent waste. Sustainable houses often look different than a McMansion not only in size, but the overall aesthetic is just different in a way that I don't really know how to describe. I think personalization would be important. A family with kids needs a larger house than a couple or single person. In addition, having different hobbies means needing different spaces. If someone is an artist, they get a studio. I don't need an artist studio, but a greenhouse and workshop are priorities. Basically, I'm picturing smaller houses that focus on common areas and hobby spaces over individual bedrooms. In addition, there would be common areas through a community. For example, a swimming pool takes lots of upkeep. Having a community swimming pond would be more efficient than having a swimming pool for each house. In addition, it would build community. Most people don't need a guest bedroom. They need an air mattress or a multi-use space (ex: an office with a pull out couch). A permaculture aesthetic would focus on meeting our (and our community's) needs without overconsumption. Plants would be used as art, natural lighting would be a priority, and indoor/outdoor living would be a priority. A food garden integrated into the house would also be an important piece.
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