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Just had an interesting idea. I will try to setup a pen with some hugel mounds inside. Inside the mounds I will bury some 55gal (200 litre) drums connected to some 6 inch (150 mm) sewer pipe. With some playing around this may be able to provide a shelter and feed. Management of newly planted mounds would be the tricky part. The rabbits may also prefer to dig their own holes but if enough are provided this may not be a problem. Tell me what you think.



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please don't take my reply as disheartening, I mean this only to help.

a) rabbits dig and if you want them to stay in you will need to put down fencing on the ground and around the entire area with spacing at least 1x2inch and preferably 1x1 around the bottom edge of the perimeter fence. to keep the rabbits in and predators out.
*the most amazing pen in the world is no good if the rabbits get out and no rabbits in it*

b) really depends on your area what all you will need to do to make the area predator proof. I know for my area I would need solid walls around the bottom perimeter and chicken wire above that, 1x1 wire on the ground, and bird netting over the top held up good.

c) how many rabbits are you planning on? rabbits can and will quickly turn a lush area into dirt and/or mud if they aren't rotated somehow or they have a seriously huge area to eat from. which of course if the area is huge that makes it hard for you to gather up the fryers.

d) 55gal drums sound good but you need to make sure they will have adequate ventilation. the animals breathing when they are in it will make condensation on the inside of the drum and drip to the bottom. so need holes drilled in it to make sure any moisture can get out. if it cant then it could make mold grow inside which could kill the rabbits.
you also want some drainage because the kits do pee and if adult rabbits decided to potty in it.

e) definitely make sure if you built it that you can somehow open it up and clean the drums periodically. as I said before reasons as well as you will want to check nests to pull out any dead kits.
 
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kadence blevins wrote:please don't take my reply as disheartening, I mean this only to help.

a) rabbits dig and if you want them to stay in you will need to put down fencing on the ground and around the entire area with spacing at least 1x2inch and preferably 1x1 around the bottom edge of the perimeter fence. to keep the rabbits in and predators out.
*the most amazing pen in the world is no good if the rabbits get out and no rabbits in it*

Definitely planned on digging and placing wire around the exterior.

b) really depends on your area what all you will need to do to make the area predator proof. I know for my area I would need solid walls around the bottom perimeter and chicken wire above that, 1x1 wire on the ground, and bird netting over the top held up good.

Predator pressure is pretty lite. Owls are the only real problem so I will probably have to use some avian netting.

c) how many rabbits are you planning on? rabbits can and will quickly turn a lush area into dirt and/or mud if they aren't rotated somehow or they have a seriously huge area to eat from. which of course if the area is huge that makes it hard for you to gather up the fryers.

My thought is maybe 6 breeders in a 1000 sq/ft area. Cut and carry forage will also be provided.

d) 55gal drums sound good but you need to make sure they will have adequate ventilation. the animals breathing when they are in it will make condensation on the inside of the drum and drip to the bottom. so need holes drilled in it to make sure any moisture can get out. if it cant then it could make mold grow inside which could kill the rabbits.
you also want some drainage because the kits do pee and if adult rabbits decided to potty in it.

Definitely needs holes drilled or possibly just a half barrel with a dirt floor. good call The backs will be designed to be used as cleanouts.

e) definitely make sure if you built it that you can somehow open it up and clean the drums periodically. as I said before reasons as well as you will want to check nests to pull out any dead kits.

 
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you will need the *whole* ground area covered. rabbits dig, dogs run, cats climb...
some people have gotten away with not fencing the whole ground area but to me the chances of the rabbits getting out and running rampant is not a risk to take.
having experience with cage and hutch rabbits I can tell you that they are very good at getting out as it is
 
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I already have experience raising rabbits in cages and in a few versions of colonies, so I understand the possible challenges. Just sounds like a fun project. I will try to snap pics as I build it.
 
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I like that you are trying to think outside the box. I think that we need more of this type of thinking especially with things like rabbits. I am excited to see how it works, and to learn from your experiments.
 
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I am just going with a simple artificial warren, 8x8x8 chainlink fencing and (6)8x4 1/4" abs plastic sheets for underground barrier (inside the chainlink cage.. back filled.) , 3' of the chainlink cage above ground with a roof and gutter to collect water (inline simple filter). Picked up some 6.5vt solar panels and direct wire them up with 12vt fans.. (if its sunny the fans are going even though its northern AZ and not hot. ).
Grid planting around the 8x8 areas will be alfalfa east to west, and assorted gardening/'weeds' north to south. So they can munch on the buffet around the fencing. Yet still some produce left for me. And alfalfa to store up for winter..
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I am just going with a simple artificial warren, 8x8x8 chainlink fencing and (6)8x4 1/4" abs plastic sheets for underground barrier (inside the chainlink cage.. back filled.) , 3' of the chainlink cage above ground with a roof and gutter to collect water (inline simple filter). Picked up some 6.5vt solar panels and direct wire them up with 12vt fans.. (if its sunny the fans are going even though its northern AZ and not hot. ).
Grid planting around the 8x8 areas will be alfalfa east to west, and assorted gardening/'weeds' north to south. So they can munch on the buffet around the fencing. Yet still some produce left for me. And alfalfa to store up for winter..
Comments? Advice?
 
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Built to last...lol
 
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Um, my rabbits eat plastic, or at least chew it up real good.

Plastic might not be the best flooring.  
 
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