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Cannabis fed pork.

 
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I heard cannabis fed pork is on the market on the west coast, has anyone tried it? Wondering if this is a sales gimmick or if it does make a difference in meat quality.



 
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Since pigs can get drunk what about them getting high ?

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I'd like half a pound of the smoked ham please.
 
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My god the advertising potential for this one is huge! Someone get David Peel and Cypress Hill on the line. "dude this is the headiest head cheese ever". yay washington
 
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There's plenty of deer and rabbits on Vancouver Island that have had their share. I know this because the dope growers are constantly complaining about it and devising prevention methods. It's B.C.'s top cash crop. Washington is decriminalizing possession. That is bound to hurt our guys.
 
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I was thinking pork that smokes itself ?

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You can't get high from eating cannabis...you need the heat extraction of either cooking or smoking to make the THC available. So, it might be good forage (and there are plenty of users who claim that juicing cannabis is uber-healthy).
 
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Actually, what is necessary is decarboxylation (I think that's the proper term, decarbing for short), where, if I am understanding it right, the carbon dioxide is removed and the THC-A gets converted to THC. It is a bioavailability issue, but if it's cooked, even dry, then eating the plant will get one intoxicated.

Cannabis decarbs itself over time, so field-dried cannabis plants might already be decarbed. I know that dogs are biochemically close enough to humans to be able to get high, but I don't know about pigs.

To be quite honest, unless you are in a medical cannabis production situation (tricky because, of course, of legal issues almost everywhere across the globe), it would be more likely to get plant waste from industrial hemp operations, wherein the THC component isn't present to any meaningful extent, and so intoxicated swine aren't an issue.

Joking aside, I would love to see cannabis, medical or industrial (for the purposes of animal feed, a seed-producing strain would actually be best) incorporated into a diverse pasture polyculture, including all the supportive plant functions of nitrogen fixers and hyperaccumulators, and nettles, sunflowers (giant seed varieties like the Mammoth Russian, for instance, as well as Sunchokes), just to name a few.

There is no question why one of the colloquial names for cannabis has ever been "weed." Why wouldn't one want to incorporate such a fast-growing, hardy, useful plant into the mix?

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I'm sure pigs get high. The endocannabinoid system is an inherent part of the mammalian brain, nervous systems, and immune system, among others. It would be impossible for a mammal to survive without it's brain/body producing cannabimimetic compounds every second of everyday. When cannabis is introduced to a mammal, it interacts with these systems and produces effects.

I also doubt how much actual cannabis flowers these pigs are fed. I think they probably just process the waste material.
Which isn't a bad thing, if grown organically, IMO.
 
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Good to know. Honestly, I think that a strain that balances seed and fibre production would be best for forage.

Fibre strains only grow best for fibre production if closely spaced to avoid excess branching, so it seems like an either - or situation.

But they can trap as much carbon from the atmosphere as any sapling that grows to a similar size in its first season (good luck finding such a tree). If being used for fibre production, it could sequester that carbon for a century or more (for those of you unaware of this, long overcoats made of hemp were referred to as century coats, as they would easily last that long).

Looks like a good function stacker to me.

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Chris Kott wrote:Actually, what is necessary is decarboxylation (I think that's the proper term, decarbing for short), where, if I am understanding it right, the carbon dioxide is removed and the THC-A gets converted to THC. It is a bioavailability issue, but if it's cooked, even dry, then eating the plant will get one intoxicated.

Cannabis decarbs itself over time, so field-dried cannabis plants might already be decarbed. I know that dogs are biochemically close enough to humans to be able to get high, but I don't know about pigs.

To be quite honest, unless you are in a medical cannabis production situation (tricky because, of course, of legal issues almost everywhere across the globe), it would be more likely to get plant waste from industrial hemp operations, wherein the THC component isn't present to any meaningful extent, and so intoxicated swine aren't an issue.

Joking aside, I would love to see cannabis, medical or industrial (for the purposes of animal feed, a seed-producing strain would actually be best) incorporated into a diverse pasture polyculture, including all the supportive plant functions of nitrogen fixers and hyperaccumulators, and nettles, sunflowers (giant seed varieties like the Mammoth Russian, for instance, as well as Sunchokes), just to name a few.

There is no question why one of the colloquial names for cannabis has ever been "weed." Why wouldn't one want to incorporate such a fast-growing, hardy, useful plant into the mix?

-CK


I think that is a good enough assessment for me, thanks.
 
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Best line in the video
I've got some pot pork. What d'ya wanna do man? Let's smoke it!

 
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Jessica Gorton wrote:You can't get high from eating cannabis...you need the heat extraction of either cooking or smoking to make the THC available. So, it might be good forage (and there are plenty of users who claim that juicing cannabis is uber-healthy).


Actually you can get very high by eating it, but you would have to eat the flowers or hashish made from the leaves and flowers. There is a long history of people eating cannabis. The word "assassin" comes from "hashashsin" meaning "hash-eater". These were a bunch of mercenaries in the middle east that ate hash before doing their dirty deeds (done dirt cheap!) to get in the right "head space" for a little of the ol' ultraviolence. Although, I think I'd be much more interested in chilling by a river playing music than murdering people if I ate a big ol' ball of hash... Tibetan, Nepalese and Indian monks also ate hash to "see Shiva" who is the patron deity of cannabis in India and it was an ingredient in "Soma" which was drunk by ancient Rishis or seers in India to commune with the gods.

But enough with the history of cannabis, these pigs are probably eating "industrial hemp" with contains only micro-trace ammounts of THC and the seeds which are high in protein and fat. Hemp seeds are considered a super-food due to thier nutrient density and lots of people eat them for this reason (which begs the question of why it is illegal and classified the same as THC bearing cannabis by our oh-so-intelligent gubment.) Anway, I thought you might enjoy a lil info on the topic.

Cheers!
 
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Ok, so the question I have to ask is "would they get the munchies" and would it help them pack on pounds?

The other question is whether a stoned pig is easier to handle, more "Mellow" per se.

Never smoked anything, excepting a brisket, but I am all for plant diversity..
 
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Wakin' bacon!
 
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Hemp isn't that weird as a fodder crop. Link is in Dutch. This farm is a agro-ecological farm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOHMBXq4ZRc
 
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Eric Tilton wrote:I'd like half a pound of the smoked ham please.

Shouldn't that be toked ham?
 
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You can't get high from eating the plant in its natural state. THC, the compound in cannabis that gets you high, needs to be heated in order to achieve the desired effect. This is why people smoke it or why they make things like "magic brownies" because heating the plant make the THC available for use.

So, your pigs would not get high from eating the plant. If you took the buds from the plant and cooked them, then fed them to the pigs, your pigs would be well, happier than pigs in you know what LOL.
 
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Tom Scialla wrote:You can't get high from eating the plant in its natural state.


This is not strictly speaking true, many eat hashish for instance, that is nothing more than pure plant resin. The flowers and resin can actually get you high through your skin if you handle the flowers enough. But you would have to feed them lots of ripe buds. The leaves, stems and seeds wouldn't do it unless it was an incredible potent strain and fed in large doses. Didn't mean to lay on the pot talk but I think it bears mention because I don't think stoned pigs (all cypress hill aside) would be a good thing. I've had the misfortune to see animals who have gotten into their peoples pot food. It scares the heck out of most of them and is thus cruel in my opinion.
 
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Landon Sunrich wrote:I've had the misfortune to see animals who have gotten into their peoples pot food. It scares the heck out of most of them and is thus cruel in my opinion.


I wonder if it's because they aren't expecting the effect. Animals certainly enjoy getting drunk on fermented foods but I suppose they know ahead of time what the effect will be!
 
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I think a lot of the terror has to do with dose. They don't know what they're getting into and so they eat a stash that's supposed to go to a dozen full grown humans at party and the like. High enough eaten does can send a Paul Wheaton sized human into outer space for several days in what feels like a one way ride that even amongst conscious consenting ingesters has been known to cause anxiety and panic. An animal can become incredibly scared, confused, disoriented et all. Not a good scene.
 
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The trimmings of any medicinal cannabis worth smoking the bud of would be much more profitably processed for its concentrates (hash, oil, shatters and waxes). The final byproduct would have less Thc than fermentation byproducts have alcohol.

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Sierra Nevada brewery raised a pair of pigs strictly on their spent grains and hops(cannabis' cousin). They cooked one with wort(sweet unfermented beer) injected under the skin and the other full of fresh hops in the body cavity and cooked them whole. They said the results were phenomenal.
 
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Dude, how about' 'smoked' salmon.

 
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