Can we nominate posts for apple earnings?

What happens in fora without moderators?
Do thumbs up contribute?

(I tried a search and didn't find anything that seemed to be relevant. If there is sorry and please direct me there)

Jacob Freepons wrote:What happens in fora without moderators?
Do thumbs up contribute?

(I tried a search and didn't find anything that seemed to be relevant. If there is sorry and please direct me there)

Anyone who can give apples can give them in any forum, it's not just the moderator for that specific forum. Posts with lots of thumbs up are more likely to get apples but there isn't a formula. By all means, give good posts thumbs up.

Also, that 'report' button is very useful for drawing our attention to posts. We often miss good ones if we're in a spam-hunting frame of mind when we first see it, so don't be scared of reporting good stuff as well as bad to force us to give the good-stuff a look over.

Thanks to everyone for enlightening me on this process.

I should probably also point out that reporting your own posts hoping for an apple might not be viewed very favourably with the staff.

But, if it's a good enough one, you never know...

When a thread is deleted, do the apples and thumbs up awarded in that thread disappear ?

We're often encouraged to read older threads. If we do this and bring one forward, can we be punished for that if the thread contains objectionable material written by others ? Would bringing it forward effectively put the older material up for review, or would you prefer that the staff be contacted privately every time something weird is found in the archives ?

When a thread is deleted, do the apples and thumbs up awarded in that thread disappear ?

In general no. The only exception would be if the thread was deleted because of an objectionable post. That post might lose the poster an apple. It's best not to see the apples as 'rewards' or 'punishments', but more of a measure of how well that member contributes to permies, and posts that are annoying or shit-stirring or take up too much staff time for no good reason might justify removing one. Part of the idea behind the cider press was so that the members could discuss hot topics, which usually suck staff resources dry trying to moderate them. These can be now discussed by people who have proved themselves to not need much moderating and leave us to do more productive work.

We're often encouraged to read older threads. If we do this and bring one forward, can we be punished for that if the thread contains objectionable material written by others ? Would bringing it forward effectively put the older material up for review, or would you prefer that the staff be contacted privately every time something weird is found in the archives ?

Hmmm, this is tricky and has been causing a lot of behind-the-scenes discussion. There are a lot of older threads buried around the place that, if they were created today, we would only allow in the cider press. But, as many members without the relevant apple requirement have posted in them, we can't move them there. The ideal thing would be to find them all, create a similar thread in the cider press, and then have a staff member post a 'all discussion now transferred to this new thread' type post, and lock the original thread.

But finding all those old posts is a long job and doesn't seem the most productive use of our time so they tend to stay buried and we just hope they got forgotten. Then if they do reappear some of us get a bit grumpy because we were hoping not to have spend time on them, but it seems kinda harsh to lock a thread that's in use as it tends to piss people off, and then the staff get touchy on the 'remove apple' button and might just decide that someone had bumped the old thread up just to be a nuisance. We're human, y'know!

The most helpful thing is to hit that 'report' button if you see anything that we've missed, or if you find a thread that would be better fit in the cider press.

Dale Hodgins wrote:When a thread is deleted, do the apples and thumbs up awarded in that thread disappear ?

We're often encouraged to read older threads. If we do this and bring one forward, can we be punished for that if the thread contains objectionable material written by others ? Would bringing it forward effectively put the older material up for review, or would you prefer that the staff be contacted privately every time something weird is found in the archives ?

The way it's brought forward makes a difference. "Report" is a good idea if you aren't sure. Making a quality post would be a good idea if the topic of the thread is a useful one. We are, indeed, encouraged to read older threads by the search engine that shows links to "similar threads" at the bottom of the page. (similar threads is not a feature of the mobile site)