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Kirk Hutchison wrote:
The forest is not logged - it is National Forest we are talking about.
plenty of National Forest gets logged.
i have planted a lot of pine, spruce, hemlock, cedar, etc on my property for those particular reasons..
also i do use some of the pine needles for mulch around blueberry and cranberry plants..as they are acidic..
i do find that the local bird and squirrel populations love the pine type trees..esp..as they provide dense cover year around
Here in my mountains of NM the forests are mainly pine, fir or spruce depending to some degree on elevation. There's some aspen mixed in here and there. Here there is very little if any reforesting as the trees are way too thick as it is. The past few years have seen thinning being done to reduce fire danger. Wherever possible they try to leave as much aspen as possible as it is a declining species. Some of that decline is traceable to reduced availability of water resources for growth. Our aspens all seem to be stressed and we are loosing more than gaining.
Perhaps the roads dept is not the only ones required to do this?
now i do find that if there are clearings left in the pine forests that the native trees will reseed into those areas and the pines will act as a quick growing nurse crop for those..but it really has to open up for those deciduous trees to get established.
i have read that it is best to have a 33% ratio of what you plant ..1/3 pine, 1/3 deciduous and 1/3 herbaceous..and that is what my goal has been here..but when i say pine i mean all evergreens not just pine family..i also include spruce, cedar, fir, hemlock, etc. on my property.
i have a huge number of evergreens, but they are equally balanced out with the deciduous and the shrub/herbaceous layers..
i do see that the animals and birds take their cover in the evergreens, esp in the wintertime here.
as i said above i try to have about a 30 % mix..
the woods in the photos..has hemlock but they aren't visible as they are much farther back into the woods about 700' yet..
you are welcome to become a friend on my facebook and view the evergreens in my photo abums more..and i should post some photos of them in winter..winter is when pines and hemlocks and spruces really come into their own..my goal here is to use them around the perimeter of the property as screens and windbreaks as well as cover for the animals.
Here is an example of where trees serve as living fence posts to contain a stallion.
in our field we have managed to get a dotty line of trees as well as some here and there in the field..but working on that property line has been more difficult.
i do find that evergreens are what i turn to for quick growing cover on the property lines..for screens and for windbreaks..as well as wildlife cover..but as soon as i get some evergreen established then i always seem to begin to work on the deciduous trees to balance them out
tel jetson wrote:
I don't imagine they're being planted in many national forests, but stone pines are pretty great. all the advantages of conifers that have been mentioned, plus a reliable source of delicious nuts after they get going (which does take a while).
Some of the food-producing pine species with a limited range are endangered, and are being encouraged by Federal projects.
Like where they grow & what the nuts are like.
What time of year can you move them?
generallly i move most of my evergreens when they are less than 3' tall..with nearly 100 % success..it is a must to make sure that the roots point out or down rather than upwards when moving trees..and to make sure to get as much root and if possible leave soil on the roots, when possible.
i have also successfully moved many dozens of black spruce from swamps north of here..the black spruce will seed into the swamps and they develop almost a water born root..they pull out very easily without digging and can be planted on our property as we have a very high water table..i have planted black spruce and cedars out of swamps all over our property and many are very large now..white pines prefer a drier soil so the only places i have lost them has been where it was too wet..they will adapt tothe damper soil..but not as easily as the spruces do. I prefer the white pines as they grow so quickly..
we also have canadian hemlock that grow wild on our property so i move them onto our property linies when i find small ones..they are so pretty and smell wonderful..remind me of christmas..i have some that are 40 ' tall that i moved here..they are one of my favorite trees to move..i have found white spruce in the woods and moved them here too..but white sprice are not so easy to find..i have several blue spruces..but they generally come from a store..but some are getting large enough to make seed soon..so manybe we'll have babies of them someday..also cause there are a lot of christmas tree farms around we occasionall have bird depostied scotch and fir seedlings..our field has some baby scotch growing there now..but i haven't tried to move any of those.
i have also moved maple, cotinus, barberry, and other deciduous trees with good success
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