Kari Gunnlaugsson wrote:
Dale Hodgins wrote:It's a sewer pipe on a beach. >
@ Erica..once you bolt the ballast keel on, nothing is intrinsically floaty anymore, so maybe you're a multihull sailor...
these guys are a bit nuts but they know how to keep it simple:
proa crossing, barehanded..
Chris Kott wrote:Logan, I just gotta say that somewhere I think you added an extra zero. In the area that's not urban and not Muskoka's prime real estate, the per acre average for land in Ontario anyways is around $1000.
Erica, as to doing interesting things with plastic out of the Gyre, there are some interesting threads in the Fungi forum having to do with the composting of plastics with particularly aggressive species of culinary mushroom, one of which I believe was the oyster mushroom.
I know this isn't going to be a popular idea with any of the sailors here, but I like the idea of an artificial island. If one could be designed to be expanded from floating material accumulated from the Gyre, for instance, it would be performing a function of extreme benefit to much of the life on the planet, and as has been suggested, mariculture is an option. The thing for me is, if you were to grow a system that eventually took the form and exhibited the properties of an iceberg, the underwater surface area could be used to host, or could even be mostly comprised of, the framing and infrastructure that supports all aspects of a coastal or reef environment, including the fish and shellfish and seaweed that we'd harvest for food. Make the scale large enough, say something large enough to support soil cover, a protective halo of a certain salt water tree I know grows in salty swamps in Florida, but I can't remember the name, a complete salt water ecosystem, and trees, not a few ornaments, but a food forest, and that means a full and healthy soil layer. If biorock, which I have seen written up extensively under the name seacrete, can be used to create a platform that has the capacity to turn electrode material from trade or scrap and electricity from solar or wind into more platform, all that remains is to have a bunch of open-minded, progressive old salts (is that oxymoronic?) get together and decide if its possible to design a system of building such a platform out of either seacrete or plastic strained from the Gyre, or maybe both. So not just a chicken that got et if it didn't lay, we're talking food forests, oak savannahs, small and later not so small livestock... What if it were possible to grow a continent?
Logan Streondj wrote:
that would be great as a coastal or interior boat, though it's not really seaworthy.
In terms of the flat coastal-access as I mentioned planning on having catamaran.
Chris Kott wrote:Dale, I'd love to see you try. I'm sure it would be more than spacious by lilliputian standards. Do you happen to be an inch tall?
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