If I needed herbicide, I would contemplate harvesting tree of heaven root bark from around town and making a big tub of ailanthone tea. But your town might be better than mine.
Leah Sattler wrote:
uhm. you totally lost me on all that. is ailianthone an herbicide that can be extracted from the bark of at tree? is there some kind of sarcasm that just went waaaay over my head
But your town might be better than mine.
This discussion strikes me as an attempt to reinvent the wheel. The idea of ground covering with clover and then planting through it is exactly what Fukuoka researched for decades and finally worked out.
Quittrack wrote:Almost every kernel in one ear will sprout, creating a clump of corn stalks.
Unfortunately I don't remember where I read the negative finding about the living mulch.
I have wondered about doing something like this with an extract of hawkweed or something like it.
Susan Monroe wrote:I wouldn't think that seeding into an existing bed of clover would be all that suitable for true no-till. I intend to try it sometime, but my plan was to run a small Mantis tiller a bit to make a seedbed just prior to sowing, or just to chop a hole in the runners and remove them, then plant.
TCLynx, that's not quite true about nitrogen in root nodules not being available to other plants. While the clover plant does use the nitrogen in the clover for it's own use while it is still alive, the roots are constantly growing and dying. The nodules that are on the dying/dead roots will contribute nitrogen to the soil and then to other plants. Some roots only live for three days or so before they die and are replaced by other roots.
BTW, for anyone who is new to the term 'no-till', there is a difference between the permaculture/organic version and the chemical farmer version.
In permaculture, the weeds are kept down with mulch.
In chemical farming, the weeds are kept down with herbicides. While they say they aren't disturbing the soil, they are still disturbing the ecosystem with their toxic chemicals. They think this is an improvement.
Not always true some long term no tillers use covercrops and all the smart ones keep the crop residue on the ground,see[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKhKqr2lAYw] and http://www.rolf-derpsch.com/ orhttp://www.youtube.com/user/QuiviraCoalition?feature=watch enjoy.