Tristan Vitali wrote:
R Laurance wrote:We have a different zone numbering system so that doesn't translate as easily. However, Daron, I am a native Oregonian and know your climate well. It is close to the same here in this region, though some winters may be colder here dipping down to about 2°-3° F for a few days, but have only experienced that once in the 20 years I've been here.
I actually started some this year from our local seed coop - they're claiming to be growing it down to a zone 3! Sounds like this plant has quite a range, which is always a good sign.
John Suavecito wrote:Careful about mixing sand with clay. That's how they make cobh benches-much like cement! I would much rather put gravel in my clay and add organic matter.
That lets the soil drain. Very important.
John S
PDX OR
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Henry Jabel wrote:
John Suavecito wrote:Careful about mixing sand with clay. That's how they make cobh benches-much like cement! I would much rather put gravel in my clay and add organic matter.
That lets the soil drain. Very important.
John S
PDX OR
Surely the thing making sand and clay like cement in cob is lack of water. Clay by itself is fairly hard like cement when it is bone dry isn't it? I find sand is probably one of the better amendments for heavy clay soil and enables it to be worked well even in dry conditions..... if you are sceptical try it in a small area.
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John Suavecito wrote:I would try Quail seeds.
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Sebastian Köln wrote:I found some on a friends table in a cup and growing roots.
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Jan White wrote:I planted some seeds from EFN in the spring. I'd read that they need cold stratification, which I'd dropped the ball on doing, so I just sprinkled a few in a four inch pot to see if any would come up without it. Well, lots came up, so I don't know if the stratification is that important.
They stayed in the 4" pot all summer and were a little tortured. I realized I had a bunch of stuff in black pots all sitting in the sun for a few days while it was 44° out. The roots were probably cooking. The hablitzia seemed the least bothered out of everything.
I just transplanted them into the garden. They're only about 8cm tall, but they seem really sturdy. I divided the clump in the pot in half and put one half in a mostly ornamental garden under a birch tree, where it will be shaded when the sun is high. The other half got planted at the back of a herb garden where it can grow up a Saskatoon tree that never produces well. This one will be in full sun almost all day. The soil in both places is very silty, low organic material. I mixed in a bit of sand and rock dust. The garden under the birch tree can get pretty waterlogged in the spring, so we'll see how it goes. Since the hablitzia seeds seem to sprout so easily, I'm happy to take a chance with them.
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Al William wrote:
Jan White wrote:
Apologies for the thread necromancy, but could you update on this, or is too early to tell?
Catherine Brouwer wrote:Once germinated, I think, it may be best to keep plants not too warm and not too wet, as to make them grow slowly. Otherwise I do not know how to protect them from collapsing. I do hope some of the plants make it to next spring, as the hablitzia seems to good to be true a plant...
Al William wrote:
Jan White wrote:
Apologies for the thread necromancy, but could you update on this, or is too early to tell?
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