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Had cancer and beat it with alternative medicine?

 
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hmm

Hijack a virus to treat cancer

Cytomegalovirus is one of a kind. Its ability to infect us for life and trigger new immune responses every time it reactivates means it is accelerating the ageing of many people's immune systems (see main story). The unique talents of CMV - pictured, right - are now being exploited by researchers working on a cancer vaccine.

Tumour cells have proteins on their surface which the immune system recognises. The problem is that because these cancerous cells are our own, the immune system ignores them. "Your immune system has been educated not to attack itself," says Kamal Khanna at the University of Connecticut at Farmington. As a result, the tumour goes unchallenged.

Khanna and his student Zhijuan Qiu have been working on a way to get the immune system to attack tumours. They modified a protein expressed by over 90 per cent of melanoma tumours just enough to encourage the body to treat it as foreign while simultaneously recognising it for the protein that it is. Then they inserted the genetic code for this protein into CMV.

The immune systems of mice infected with this modified form of CMV trained up immune T-cells to attack the virus - the idea being that these T-cells will also attack tumour cells that are expressing the protein.

The team then gave the mice a particularly bad skin cancer. While the untreated group of mice died within 23 days, the treated mice survived for as long as they were monitored - more than two months. "This is huge for mice," says Qiu, who presented the findings at the American Association of Immunologists' annual meeting in Boston last month.

CMV triggers a new immune response every time the virus reactivates, so the mice's immunity to cancer doesn't weaken over time, as it would with other vaccines.

The researchers hope to develop their vaccine for people with a family history of cancer.
 
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Hmm , never seen this before.

Was widely used before Chemo showed up, should be availible outside the US.

http://www.morgellonsresearchfoundation.com/Articles/Diseases%20and%20Medical%20Conditions%20Other/Advanced%20Alternatives%20Coley%27s%20Cancer%20Vaccine.htm

http://www.damninteresting.com/coley%E2%80%99s-cancer-killing-concoction/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coley%27s_Toxins
 
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Maybe take a look at this series of videos from Jerry Brunetti. A person who is fighting this awful disease head on
Theres 20 of them in all. Very informative stuff, IMO
Here is part 1
Be warned, though, he has little time for the medical profession.

**Edit.........watch it in ony 2 parts here:
http://www.naturalhealthstrategies.com/food-as-medicine.html

Reg
 
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This is a subject close to my heart. My mother died of cancer when I was 19. My best friend's mother died of cancer this year, it was like losing my own mother over again. So for about the past 8 years I have had an avid interest in cancer treatments, alternative and orthodox. I would like to share what I have learned in the hopes that it may help others.

1. No one really knows the exact cause of most cancers. It could be stress, environmental toxins, genetic predisposition or a combination of the three (this is probably most likely).
2. Cancer like all disease of the body is pro inflammatory. It lives in, thrives, in and generates more inflammation. Inflammation is the hallmark of all human disease from dementia to arthritis.
3. Before any alternative or orthodox treatment is considered/pursued the basics of human health must be understood and adhered to. This means one's environment, life style, and diet should be geared towards less environmental toxins, behavior which supports the body instead of breaking it down, and a complete and varied diet filled with food grown under ideal conditions.

So what can we actually do if we have cancer or want to prevent it, how do we apply the above?

First we ask what can we effect? We can effect stress, environmental toxins and even genetic predisposition. The latter may be surprising but it true and it has a name(s), psychoneuroimmunology and epigenetics. Psychoneuroimmunology is basically the study of how our thoughts effect our immune system. A strong immune system gives you a better opportunity to fight off cancer. Epigentics is the study of how genes can be turned off and on based on environmental signals. It is very possible that genetic predisposition for a cancer can be turned on because of stress, toxins, or because of thought processes which weaken the immune system thus making the individual more susceptible to cancer. So we can positively effect even our genes! Don't give up because your parents or other family members have had cancer or other disease. By changing your life style or environment you can alter your bodies genetic expression to break the cycle of family illness and disease, do it for yourself and for your children. Think about it, if thoughts and life style play a role in disease then what you have learned from your parents may actually propagate said disease. Question everything in your lifestyle and be willing to make a change for your health. Even your own thoughts may betray you.

Some additional thoughts... If you live in a valley or near a major city, MOVE! The hills of a valley are a much healthier place to live as smog and pollutants do not gather and stay there. It seems that living in these environments makes the task of fighting cancer an up hill battle. I know, I live in the Sacramento Valley of California and we have one of the highest rates of breast cancer, if not the highest in the nation. I am planning to move as soon as possible and I am trying to convince family and friends to take the same action.

The next thing you can do is to address diet. I am not going to make any claims that this diet works better than that. I simply believe that like plants if everything is not present for healthy function disease and dysfunction will manifest. That is why I consume broad spectrum rock dust/powders everyday. Products like Azomite provide all of the trace minerals for healthy plant (and human) growth. They are safe to consume and I trust them to provide what my body needs to function until I can grow foods that are nutrient dense enough to replace them. Did I also mention that they are cheap? A 40 lb bag costs $25 and will last years, literally. Much better buy than a multi-mineral. Include powerful antioxidants and anti-inflammatory agents like omega 3s and 9s as well as tumeric and you have a well round base for nutritional health. More can be done to enhance these benefits (like intermittent fasting, raw diets, and the elimination of processed food) but this is a good start.

Finally, with alterations in lifestyle must come alterations in stress levels. Some of the best ways to accomplish this are with meditation and exercise. Meditation is scientifically proven to reduce stress and enhance the health of the body (lowered blood pressure, lowered heart rate, lowered cortisol levels, better immune function, etc). Yoga is a perfect addition to this and I personally consider it another form of meditation not exercise. As for exercise I highly recommend a focus on acute anaerobic stress as opposed to chronic aerobic training. Short bouts of intensive exercise have a greater benefit on health than do long grueling aerobic workouts. This is not to say that jogging a couple miles is detrimental, on the contrary that is a great way to relieve stress. But anaerobic workouts like sprinting and jumping produce a more useful bodily response. The body says "Oh crap I am working hard, I should turn on all my organs and have them work at their peak to support this activity." The result is better immune function, better sleep, better digestion, better cognitive ability, etc, etc. The same is not true of chronic, grueling, aerobic work. Too much aerobic training can actually weaken the immune system and the bodies organs. On the other hand short workouts of 20 to 30 min once or twice a day EVERYDAY (your bodies physiology does not take days off, neither should you) can have a purely stimulating effect making your body more resilient to stress and disease. Of course if your are in the midst of illness I don't expect you to go do sprints, this is more of a preventative or a means of keeping illness in remission.

That's my cancer/disease primer. Take care of the basics... then get fancy. I encourage people to research this information on their own to confirm or disprove my assertions. I truly believe that we all have the ability to live a high quality of life with out illness or disease. The human body is amazingly resilient and adaptive we just have to give it the opportunity to thrive. Unfortunately many of us have created or allowed or have been forced into a lifestyle which is detrimental to human prosperity. That's why I love this website, I see here the possibility of healing our environment and thus ourselves so that we can not just survive but thrive. What great thoughts can we have, what great art can we create, what great transcendental experience are we capable of knowing, what beautiful relationships can we nurture and explore?


 
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Actually, the inflammation is probably a health response to try and kill the infection, but cancerous cells can distract white and lymphatic cells to turn off, or simply hibernate till they go away.

What we should be asking is what environmental triggers we are all exposed too. there are not that many across the board. more folks have quit smoking, but lung cancer is still on the rise.


things we are all exposed to other than air pollutants.

BPA, BPB , phytalates and phatylates. PLastics and softners. All food grade paper coatings, receipt papers. most are estrogen mimics. (so are lots of essential oils)

Bleach in the water supply. flouride is only in about 75-80 %, tho looks like adding heat to the equation makes bad stuff.

vitamin additives, especially folic acid, vitD, and most of the B vitamins. iron. added to most processed foods. lots of folks take multivitamins too. those where pointed out in a Times article from a meta study, showed significant negative health impacts.

Cancers require Iron and cytosine to grow. how many folks that have been treated for anemia , now have cancer? was anemia an immune response ?

Glyphosphate/ Roundup. and other super toxins. Used on every ag farm in the country. 2-3 times a crop field on average.

Just about every new medical drug is found out to be seriously dangerous a few years after FDA approval. at least a 1/3 of our folks over 50 are addicted to some kind of pain, sleeping, or anti-psychotic.
maybe 10-20% folks under 50 too.


and you think heavy metals are toxic?
you think living right has any impact on that?
talk to folks that work at health food stores. Nearly everyone of their customers is seriously sick.


 
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I have a friend who was diagnosed with terminal prostate cancer four or five years ago (it was before we first met). He decided to control it purely by diet - loads of vegetables and fish, some eggs, a small amount of chicken, but no dairy or other meats. All his tests show the cancer has become virtually dormant. He did have the advantage of being physically very healthy all through his life - loads of exercise, never overweight, good diet, never smoked, no alcohol, etc. - but even so, the doctors have been amazed at how well he's done. He needs a hip replacement, and ordinarily the doctors wouldn't consider it for someone who's had terminal cancer for so long because of the risk of infection, but his condition is so good that they're going ahead with it.
 
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If I had cancer, the very first protocol I would investigate would be German New Medicine. I have a friend who is healing herself of Breast Cancer with this therapy/
 
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My grandmother had cancer and was only supposed to live a few months according to doctors. She changed her diet to a macrobiotic diet and lived another 10 years. My anti-cancer diet?... WAP diet and skipping all sugar! Then add in a few extra ingredients like good sleep, de-stress, walk barefoot on the ground, get some sunshine, and get active.
 
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Fred Morgan wrote:One of the best ways to fight cancer is be ready for it. What I mean is how is your weight? How well do you eat? Do you exercise regularly? Those of us who raise livestock know that a healthy animal which has good food, moderate exercise, a good place to sleep, etc rarely is the one that gets sick.

Who knows how many cancers my healthy body has fought off. This observation is particularly true for breast cancer, according to the studies.

Perhaps the most "alternative medicine" cure for cancer is eating well, etc. Your body tends to do a great job fighting back against many things, but not if it is malnourished, and you can be overweight and malnourished.

One of the reasons that medical marijuana is pushed so much is a serious problem with chemo is loss of appetite and of course stress. Neither of which helps with recovery.




There are quite a few specific natural methods of fighting cancer. I only know about a few of them people have tried and it worked for them. Some of these methods can be found at this blog:

http://cheapcancertreatments.blogspot.com/2012/11/cheap-alternatives-to-chemotherapy.html

The first obvious thing to fix is your diet. Depending on what stage your cancer is at, you can decide what method of treatment you would like to use. If you don't want to follow any of the natural do it yourself treatments like in the blog above. You can still get alternative treatment from a professional. The place I would recommend is:

http://www.drcastillo.com/doctor.html

My mom was diagnosed with breast and liver cancer and with the help from treatments from this clinic, she has been able to beat the disease after fighting it for more than 3 years. She decided to not go the radiation chemo way because she felt that that is what killed her Mother, older sister and just recently her brother who all chose radiation chemotherapy. Dr. Castillo does seminars in the U.S and Canada and other parts of the world so that you can see and hear testimonials etc. and not just go off of internet info. My mother heard what he had to say at one of his seminars and was convinced from that point onward and 3 treatments later, she is healed. I hope this information helps someone. God Bless.
 
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Interesting that this thread is still going

Recently, I was checking out not just http://cancertutor.com but other websites. Here is more:

Tuned into this re-broadcast and while he is kind to individual doctors, he is NOT kind to the orthodox medical industry, about 2 hours: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1OyZHhhN_Y
Dr. Coldwell's website: http://drleonardcoldwell.com/

Dr. Coldwell also mentions the work of http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/

Interesting "natural chemotherapy" he speaks of, with organic maple syrup and baking soda! I also liked his gallon of good water a day with 1/2 tsp. pink Himalayan salt - not even enough to taste. I also believe that we naturally have, and fight, cancer every day. Our lives are such that the fight isn't as strong as it could be, and restoring the immune system to clear illness can happen - but if the condition is far along, it would have to be strongly implemented to counteract the damage.

If it were me, I would use a variety of methods, providing they do not contradict each other - and I would want them to promote vitality more than suppressive action (and if there is no harm, all the better). As noted, MANY cures for cancer have been discovered and well-documented using scientifically-sound principals. But it will not allow the industry as it currently is to make serious money. It really does boil down to that.

While this is no excuse for those who are the "quaxters," not legally allowing people the right to choose isn't right either. All we have to do is see documentaries like Cut Poison Burn, and this one (also about 2 hours): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qG_ZWs04es - These demonstrate clearly how far the current 150-year-old system is willing to go.

Emphasis added - do your OWN research, and use your own mind to determine what is right (and wrong) for your situation. I wish everyone wellness as we approach 2013!
 
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shawn cameron wrote: 3 treatments later, she is healed.



What exactly is the treatment?

 
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Tyler, my guess is that the protocol is outlined on the website provided, but I got the direct link (I think!) http://www.drcastillo.com/treatment.html
 
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I'm getting up into that age bracket where friends, family, and acquaintances start dropping
off like flies. Of the five people I know who got various types of cancer, 4 went the chemotherapy
route and promptly withered away and died. But one had esophageal cancer; he let the doctors
cut out the cancerous tissue and resection his stomach/esophagus but refused chemo and radiation;
that was ten years ago and he's still healthy with no sign of cancer. He drinks like a fish, too. lol

I go in the woods and harvest chaga from birch trees. I make a tea from it. I'm not into other wild
shrooms yet, but as I learn more about them I'll start collecting them too. I gave my buddy with
prostate cancer a big chunk of chaga and told him to drink the tea every day. I also gave him a
bag of Essiac herbs to make tea from. He wouldn't make the teas because the doctor scared him
into thinking it would negatively affect his chemo treatments. Poor fellow, all he wanted was a
cabin back in the woods.
 
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Latest.
A chemo anti vomit medicine is working.
So maybe the cures they get from chemo, are actually the cure for the sickness caused by chemo ?

http://www.adelaide.edu.au/news/news60088.html

and the wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aprepitant

Checked the cannabis section, since it is an anti-emetic also, and saw this down at the bottom of the page. Patented by the US Gov !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid

US patent on cannabinoids

US patent number 6,630,507, "Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants", was filed in 2001 and was granted in 2003. The patent, assigned to the United States Department of Health and Human Services, states:
“ "Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia."


THC is patented by other chemo companies.
 
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There's a LOT of research on cannabis for cancer treatment. Do an NIH search on the subject. The evidence is very compelling, as are the anecdotal reports of cancer being cured using cannabis oil.
 
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yeah, but what is amazing here, is that the "increased" survival rates claimed by chemo, may ALL be due to this anti-emetic.

Think about it. Most people save the chemo for the last stage, because it is so miserable.
If the cure is actually the anti vomiting drug, that is coming too late to help most folks then.

This should be the first thing given upon discovery, and i wonder how DCA compares in attachment sites and protein tags.

Would be interesting to find it is just a "blocker" and not an actual active enabling chem.
If it is just keeping the cancer from colonizing, then that is a pretty powerful model to build off of....
 
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I have personally seen several miraculous healing using 'Simpson Oil'...



Miracle Baby

Leukemia

Phoenix Tears

I have a bit of a bias here since my partners and I were the first licensed (privately) growers in Canada. But 'beating'cancer is a vague term. Oddly enough as I was typing...my good friend with pancreatic cancer walked in unexpectedly and she is only using the good-food, simpson oil method for her treatment. I live in an area where this is becoming the norm after the head of the local legion used the oil to extend his life 8 years. We tried to double his dosage of oil and get him off the chemo altogether but it was simply his time. Have a view of the video and do a bit of research on cannibinoids and cancer. Quite promising from a technicians viewpoint, quite miraculous for those whom to take charge of their own health and healing.
 
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some news reports on the DCA, a non licensed drug. i posted up another thread on this
Has passed stage 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nTg53izwpE
 
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I have very little scope of understand but thought I might offer that I have seen the demise of two people close to me who really never took care of themselves, one morbidly obese who never exercised and made really bad food choices, the other a smoker who likewise seemed to pick the worst items you can ingest as his diet, those two people chose conventional chemotherapy and died . But I also have lost two friends , one whom was a vegetarian a landscaper in her thirties who never smoked and died of throat cancer who was very positive in her spirit but I am not aware her choice of treatment, and the other was a very athletic horse trainer who chose a holistic regimine of quality organic food and she too rapidly lost her fight . So now I am of the thought to choose lifestyle options thought to prevent cancer cells before they become an established threat and issue, and again not really having any background I just thought I would offer a recent facebook posting I saw :

LATEST CANCER INFORMATION
from Johns Hopkins

AFTER YEARS OF TELLING PEOPLE CHEMOTHERAPY IS THE ONLY WAY TO TRY AND ELIMINATE CANCER, JOHNS HOPKINS IS FINALLY STARTING TO TELL YOU THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE WAY …


1. Every person has cancer cells in the body. These cancer cells do not show up in the standard tests until they have multiplied to a few billion. When doctors tell cancer patients that there are no more cancer cells in their bodies after treatment, it just means the tests are unable to detect the cancer cells because they have not reached the detectable size.

2. Cancer cells occur between 6 to more than 10 times in a person's lifetime.

3. When the person's immune system is strong the cancer cells will be destroyed and prevented from multiplying and forming tumors.

4. When a person has cancer it indicates the person has multiple nutritional deficiencies. These could be due to genetic, environmental, food and lifestyle factors.

5. To overcome the multiple nutritional deficiencies, changing diet and including supplements will strengthen the immune system.

6. Chemotherapy involves poisoning the rapidly-growing cancer cells and also destroys rapidly-growing healthy cells in the bone marrow, gastro-intestinal tract etc, and can cause organ damage, like liver, kidneys, heart, lungs etc.

7. Radiation while destroying cancer cells also burns, scars and damages healthy cells, tissues and organs.

8. Initial treatment with chemotherapy and radiation will often reduce tumor size. However prolonged use of chemotherapy and radiation do not result in more tumor destruction.

9. When the body has too much toxic burden from chemotherapy and radiation the immune system is either compromised or destroyed, hence the person can succumb to various kinds of infections and complications.

10. Chemotherapy and radiation can cause cancer cells to mutate and become resistant and difficult to destroy. Surgery can also cause cancer cells to spread to other sites.


11. An effective way to battle cancer is to STARVE the cancer cells by not feeding it with foods it needs to multiple.

What cancer cells feed on:

a. Sugar is a cancer-feeder. By cutting off sugar it cuts off one important food supply to the cancer cells. Note: Sugar substitutes like NutraSweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc are made with Aspartame and it is harmful. A better natural substitute would be Manuka honey or molasses but only in very small amounts. Table salt has a chemical added to make it white in colour. Better alternative is Bragg's aminos or sea salt.


b. Milk causes the body to produce mucus, especially in the gastro-intestinal tract. Cancer feeds on mucus. By cutting off milk and substituting with unsweetened soy milk, cancer cells will starved.

c. Cancer cells thrive in an acid environment. A meat-based diet is acidic and it is best to eat fish, and a little chicken rather than beef or pork. Meat also contains livestock antibiotics, growth hormones and parasites, which are all harmful, especially to people with cancer.

d. A diet made of 80% fresh vegetables and juice, whole grains, seeds, nuts and a little fruits help put the body into an alkaline environment. About 20% can be from cooked food including beans. Fresh vegetable juices provide live enzymes that are easily absorbed and reach down to cellular levels within 15 minutes t o nourish and enhance growth of healthy cells.

To obtain live enzymes for building healthy cells try and drink fresh vegetable juice (most vegetables including bean sprouts) and eat some raw vegetables 2 or 3 times a day. Enzymes are destroyed at temperatures of 104 degrees F (40 degrees C).

e. Avoid coffee, tea, and chocolate, which have high caffeine. Green tea is a better alternative and has cancer-fighting properties. Water--best to drink purified water, or filtered, to avoid known toxins and heavy metals in tap water. Distilled water is acidic, avoid it.

12. Meat protein is difficult to digest and requires a lot of digestive enzymes. Undigested meat remaining in the intestines will become putrified and leads to more toxic buildup.

13. Cancer cell walls have a tough protein covering. By refraining from or eating less meat it frees more enzymes to attack the protein walls of cancer cells and allows the body's killer cells to destroy the cancer cells.

14. Some supplements build up the immune system (IP6, Flor-ssence, Essiac, anti-oxidants, vitamins, minerals, EFAs etc.) to enable the body's own killer cells to destroy cancer cells. Other supplements like vitamin E are known to cause apoptosis, or programmed cell death, the body's normal method of disposing of damaged, unwanted, or unneeded cells.

15. Cancer is a disease of the mind, body, and spirit. A proactive and positive spirit will help the cancer warrior be a survivor.

Anger, unforgiving and bitterness put the body into a stressful and acidic environment. Learn to have a loving and forgiving spirit. Learn to relax and enjoy life.

16. Cancer cells cannot thrive in an oxygenated environment. Exercising daily, and deep breathing help to get more oxygen down to the cellular level. Oxygen therapy is another means employed to destroy cancer cells.
 
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Alternative cancer treatments are good only when common sense is used. A simple tea, or herb or diet alone does not cure it; if you use them and gain remission you are a lucky one. While I do not believe chemo and radiation are the answer, I also believe using some herbs will not be wise either. Good alternative treatments are those researched, tried and proven to work; they are out there. But you will not find a doctor willing to tell you. The reason is our laws; there are laws both federal and state that will not allow a doctor to recommend, discuss or administer any treatment that is not approved by the FDA. The problem is, our drug industry lobbies hard to keep any treatment that might interfere with their mulit-billion dollar profits. In other words we are pawns for the drug industry.

My daughter learned the hard way; after learning the truth she was determined to make the truth available. The hardest part it spreading the truth; most online sites are involved in the brainwashed propaganda that chemo and radiation is the best and only way to treat cancer. How is it that we allow our loved ones to be killed by the drugs and do nothing about it. I lost my daughter to over dosing, but it does not have to keep repeating itself. Jesicha's Hope gives you the truth, good resources and links to it; if you want a second opinion, get it free; if you want treatment have it set up for you through a top clinic in Mexico. The latest discovery BX Antitoxin is proving itself to cure over and over; the science behind it is phenomenal and it is all naturally based, targeting the cancer cells but never a healthy cell, learn more at www.jesichashope.org The truth is there and you can fight cancer with real treatments.
 
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Uh-huh.

Sure looks like a good support blend of herbs, but effective against bacteria, not guessing it would have much effect on cancer.

It appears they are actually mixing in boron, as boric acid. even the name suggests it. Herxheimer warning the same.

Don't wanna deflate the beauty intention here, just saying this can prob be homebrewed, as boric acid water, and whatever anti-bacterials you have in the garden.

The only broad spectrum ones i have seen , are DCA, whatever the anti-emitic they prescribe for post chemo, and some adjuncts that help specific pathways.

http://www.permies.com/forums/posts/list/40/1742

http://www.permies.com/t/19180/md/DCA-site-cancer-cure-studies

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm

http://www.permies.com/t/18391/food-medicine/Latest-chinese-anti-cancer-food

http://www.dfwx.com/boric.html?gclid=CNDuv4e296gCFQHsKgod6whbTQ

 
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starving tumors.

targets identified.

http://m.medicalxpress.com/news/2013-04-hundreds-potential-drug-starve-cancer.html
 
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I have two family anecdotes. My mother was diagnosed with breast cancer in her early 60's, had the surgery but refused chemo or radiation. 5 years after her surgery, she got a little cake from her doctor's office - when she asked why they said because so few made it to five years. When she was in her early 70's, she had a second bout, they did not consider it a re-occurrence. Again, she had the surgery and agreed to take Tamoxifen. About 2 months later, my father suddenly died. My mother became fey, and wanting only to be with my father, she stopped her tamoxifen. She lived to be 83. She treated herself to a bowl of blueberries every day.
My father was a pharmacist. A very kind and soft spoken man, I only saw him ANGRY one time, and I mean he was throwing a FIT. Rhyming cuss words, that was serious business around that house. He had just been ordered to stop selling laetrile, and he had patients who were being cured on it.
I devoted a career to healthcare, and people need to be as wary of it as they are of alternative medicine. Very good hearted people get led into a very sick paradigm. The entire focus is on treating symptoms, using pills almost exclusively, or cutting stuff out.
The most interesting thing I have seen is about juicing marijuana - supposedly a cancer cure with no "high" at all. Makes me wonder if that is why a relatively harmless weed is so ridiculously persecuted.
 
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I would be cautious about laetrile.

as others have pointed out, chinese medicine has had access to apricot pits for two thousand years. it it had ANY medicinal value, they would have found it.....
 
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Hi all 5 years ago my partner was given 3 months to live, and we found zeolite, a natural mineral used in asia for over 800 years. And gave it a go at max dose and it reduced her tumour by 35% in 1 week, it was incredible 2 months later it was completely gone with no sign at all, there is numerous study,s now on zeolite, it removes all heavy metals and many other toxins, it balances PH, balances Immunity, it also is now shown to activate the P21 gene in cancer cells, which is the tumour growth suppressor gene. it is just incredible, my partner ashley has written an article on her battle with cancer, but she is one thousands we now know of that have had success, Dr Gabriel Cousens has done some amazing work in his tree of life centres treating terminal patients.

Here is a link to her article.

http://wakeup-world.com/2013/04/08/liquid-zeolite-how-one-woman-beat-terminal-cancer-naturally/
 
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gavin bragg wrote: it also is now shown to activate the P21 gene in cancer cells,

http://wakeup-world.com/2013/04/08/liquid-zeolite-how-one-woman-beat-terminal-cancer-naturally/



That is an amazing story, congratulations, and thanks for sharing. I was aware of zeolite as an excellent detox, but that tidbit was new to me.
 
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Morgan Morrigan wrote:I would be cautious about laetrile.




If I were to turn to laetrile, I would have terminal cancer...
To my knowledge, the Chinese were not refining it into pure B 17 and giving it IV. They had moldy bread, too, never came up with penicillin!
 
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I have been very ill this last 6 months. The medical doctors could not agree on what is wrong with me. Then the tumors showed up. I sat up till dawn that night. I never get a break

My only though was who will care for my babies when I die. More tumors showed up. Time was moving fast. I needed 10,000 for the first chemo and round of drugs and they still were not sure what it was. I had the papers to sign away my property rights. I said no. I walked out of the hospital. I had already spent my money on tests. Test after test.

My next stop was the lawyer. I am working on a trust for my babies and my funeral, if it should happen. I have told no one. Only my boss suspects and I may lose my job yet. I will not confirm anything. I will go this alone. I do not need others dark guilt or pity.

I decided I needed a little more medicine and less bullcrap.

I settled upon a natural path. I found it hard to find a good holistic doc. So, with various advice and my bull bullheadedness I think I have found a way.

The tumors are slowly going away. The abdominal pain is fading. The brain fog is kinda gone. I still need 12hrs of sleep a day. Period. It is becoming more restful sleep. I have stopped bloating. I have stopped a lot o the pain. My joints and lymph nodes are no longer swollen. Some of my energy has returned. I can walk again with no pain The muscle wasting has stopped I think. Soon, I will be working on building muscles. I am still a wreck. I have to pull over and get sick sometimes. My vision has suffered. Lots of stuff. I just yakked my snack into the wastebasket. I got problems SO, I am not out of the woods. But I see the light now. I see a longer journey.

I have a methodology. I have stuff I take. I have stuff I do. Some is cheep, some is not. It is all my choice. It is my life.

I have turned my back on the modern medical establishment. Not too pleased with my vet either. Snotty little boy!

If things get bad. I will let you all know as I will be looking for a good home for my 5 older dogs. With this comes some stuff. Until then. I am alive and kicking. No thanks to the AMA.
 
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Daniel Morse wrote:stuff. Until then. I am alive and kicking. No thanks to the AMA.



You keep on kicking. Kicking the Rockefeller-founded AMA to the curb is a great first boot.
 
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Keep on Kicking Daniel, detox that system and get those nutrients and follow your heart.
 
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Should I post the recipe for making simpson oil? I know it is a controversial topic, and I can assure you it has nothing to do with "hemp oil" or "hemp seed oil". Looks like axle grease, and is a special method for producing a product that has the slang term "oil" attached to it.
 
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Please post the Simpsons Oil. Will I look like Home or Marge?
 
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I just found two more lumps. I was in the emergency room last week for vision issues. The kind opthamologist checked my eyes. He gave me greatly discounted service. My eyes are fine. It is deeper I fear. I ate my last steak tonight. Butter and burned meat. I have been craving meat. I gave in. As soon as it is out of the fridge the better.

Dogs each got a steak too.

Consulted an herbalist. I am trying some drinkable food and nutritional supplements as I do more research. I will keep you all posted on food I eat.
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp3qEaf5XgA&feature=player_embedded

General Recipe for those without chemistry equipment: Warning: probably too weird and dangerous for those who don't actually have cancer/want to help someone with cancer:

1 pound of bone-dry high quality indica/sedative marijuana buds, such as OG Kush or White Widow

Pour in enough naptha (ronsonol lighter fluid in a pinch, don't get freaked out) to cover the buds, then work the buds with a stick for 3 minutes.
Strain plant material, retain naptha, do a second identical run with new naptha, strain, and keep the naptha.

Cook off the naptha very very slowly with a crockpot (because it doesn't make sparks) in a very ventilated area with FANS BLOWING!!!

Once cooked down almost all the way, finish it off in an oven set at a low temperature.

When finished, this should look like axle grease.

I wouldn't post a method like this if I hadn't seen it work on some occasion. One in better circumstances should use glassware to distill off the naptha and recover the solvent. This would be the "oh crap, I have cancer, I need something now" method.

I do realize this isn't an ideal method for making an ideal medicine, and of course due to the laws in the country I can't advocate the use of above hearsay, but when cancer is involved I let fly. My father put a drop on a spot on his hand that was confirmed to be cancer, covered with a band-aid, re applied every few days, and the cancer fell off.
 
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any reason extracting with ethanol instead of naptha wouldn't work?
 
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Personally I think not, ethanol works just fine for cannabis extractions. I just posted rick's exact method, don't ask how I got his exact method..... Though I found this quote from him:

"Dampen the material with the solvent you are using. Many solvents can be used. I like to use pure naphtha but it costs $500 for a 45-gallon drum. You can use 99% isopropyl alcohol, which you can find in your local drug stores. Alcohol absorbs more chlorophyll from the plant material than naphtha does. This gives oils made with alcohol a darker colour but does not diminish the potency of the oil to any noticeable degree. Ether, naphtha or butane and many other solvents can produce oils that are amber and transparent. Granted these clear oils do look better but dark oil can be just as potent. If the process is done properly, little or no solvent residue is left in the oil. I have been consuming oils produced using different solvents for eight years with no harmful effects. You will require about two gallons of solvent to strip the THC off one pound of dry starting material. 500 milliliters of solvent should be more than enough to strip the THC from one ounce of hemp starting material."

So, yes, isopropyl alcohol or ethanol can be used, as long as they are 90+% alcohol.

Glad I cleared that up, hexane/naptha is a nasty beast...
 
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