Milkwood Nick wrote:
We received a substantial grant to fence all the riparian zones on our 1000 acre farm here in the mountains of NSW Australia. One of the conditions was that we were only allowed to "crash graze" the areas for a maximum of 6 days per year.
Stocking densities weren't defined, but at least that branch of government has some idea.
Susan Monroe wrote:As for pigs not utterly destroying a landscape... I used to drive to work every day past a five-acre place that new owners had bought. They fenced off an area that was about 80x150' and brought in two small white piglets and a shelter, apparently to clean up the area, as a garden appeared afterward. It took very little time for those two little pigs to rototill that entire area. There was nothing left except two large trees at opposite corners of the enclosure. They wiped out everything else, EVERYTHING. And these were just little pigs, they disappeared before they got very big. Can you imagine how much damage a half-ton, always-hungry hog will do?Pigs are destructive.
Leah Sattler wrote:I have read through threads where people used pigs to take out.
Mark Vander Meer wrote:How do you measure/ qualify soil improvments?
from: paul wheaton on 25-04-2009, 20:21:07
At his first presentation, there was a Q&A at the end. I asked if he would run pigs in a riparian area. "Absolutely!" and then somebody sitting behind me made some sort of snide remark about how that is not salmon safe.
rose macaskie wrote:carbon credits being paidn to farmers
Leah Sattler wrote:...if you want to do something with your land that will be detrimental to the waterway that also passes through mine I would be pretty ticked off.
You shouldn't be surprised. One of the first places to commonly adopt Savory's early work on what he now calls "Holistic management" or "Holistic planned grazing" was Austrailia. It was even an influence on Mollison. Even where it isn't used for whatever reason, people understand and know about the concept. They might not know exactly how to do it correctly, or the types of proactive monitoring required to prevent overdoing it, but they get it in principle. A government entity there would have examples to show it is possible to do it right, unlike most of the Western US where almost without exception everyone does it wrong and damages the riparian area.
Leah Sattler wrote:that seems like a reasonably safe and sensible solution...especially considering it was spawned from a government entity! I am impressed!