Recent topics pie only?

I bought one item during testing for glitches sale. I checked both desktop and mobile view, the button for subscription pie is not there in either case. Windows 10, Firefox. It's not there for me in explorer or chrome either.

Also checked Android with firefox. The button is not there.

I also do not see the recurring pie option on my android phone and do nearly all personal  surfing on my phone. I have tried many of the different suggestions, and tried a few of my own, but permies.com is not a good mobile experience for me without recent topics. That makes me skeptical to buy pie for features that are likely to not work well on my phone.

It is likely I have tried more things than an average user would have tried on their phone. In hindsight, maybe giving mobile users a good alternative or two might have been a smoother transition.

Google analytics suggests the majority of the traffic on the site is on mobile devices, so it might make sense to consider a "mobile first" viewpoint for the audience when making this type of user experience decision.

Maybe a few of us would consider some type of mobile development patreon to help support improving the site on mobile devices?

I would offer to help, but not really sure what I can do...

Not an issue here, but I've always hated websites only showing me a mobile version and refusing me access to the desktop version. Several browsers let you switch to desktop view, but I couldn't find one that would let me have desktop version by default. I now use xbrowser with a greasemonkey script called "Refuse mobile page!". Now I get the desktop version everywhere. Really pretty easy to setup. If anyone's interested, I can help or give instructions. (I use this on android.)

Joylynn Hardesty wrote:I bought one item during testing for glitches sale. I checked both desktop and mobile view, the button for subscription pie is not there in either case. Windows 10, Firefox. It's not there for me in explorer or chrome either.

Also checked Android with firefox. The button is not there.

I honestly think it's a glitch. It seems for some--really odd, probably accidental--reason, the button is only showing up for staff. And of course, none of us would have noticed it wasn't available to others. You guys are all fantastic for helping is get this fixed!

We've got stuff in the works to make a monthly payment option (and of course, have it available to every one!). And, it looks like the monthly reoccurring payments will have some sort of lovely price discount.

Paul: I didn't see your message, because I also usually don't log in.

I look quickly through the messages, and look if I can contribute somewhere, which makes me log in. That's not feasible anymore like this.

Hans, if you can give me $200,000, then I think we might be able to hire people to get you the changes you want.  Maybe in four months.  

Or, you can wait four months, and I think I can get you those changes with our group of volunteers.  

Of course, the view is available on desktop on the forum home page.  

Or with PIE.  But the PIE view is deprecated and will be gone soon.

The problem is, Paul's been saying for a long time that the old Recent Topics would go away. And no one did anything. We didn't test things or find out that the mobile recent topics was related to the desktop recent topics. We didn't test the newer recent topics via forum view. And we didn't do anything when Paul said this 4 years ago:

paul wheaton wrote:

I am about to turn off the old view.



This includes the old forum view, the old category view, the old thread view and ...  the "recent topics" list.  These things will all be gone someday soon.  I suppose if somebody gives me $40,000 I would find a way to keep it going.  But I really doubt that is going to happen.  

The old view has to go because we keep adding features to the codebase and it appears to be breaking parts of the old view.   Or we add a feature and people complain that the feature is not available in the old view.  We need our code base to be lean and malleable - because there are a lot more features coming.

What would be handy is if people could make suggestions for new features added to the current view.  It is very helpful if the people making those suggestions somehow make it clear that they are familiar with our current feature set.  Especially the different views available on the home page.


If this thread has a lot of good, clear, knowledgable suggestions, it is easy for the developers to understand what is being requested.  And then when the old view does go away, there is a good chance that the new view will be lovely for everybody.

He asked for help and testing before making the changes. He explained why these things had to go. And, I'm thinking a lot of us either (A) weren't around back then, or (B) scrolled past it and thought, "I'll learn to cope when the changes happened. For now I'm going to keep using my Recent Topics!"--I know that was my thought.

Right now, we volunteer staff are putting in hours and time and effort into trying to get a responsive mobile view. We NEED a responsive mobile design. Google hasn't been showing permies to 1/2 the amount of people since Google decided mobile was king. Over 1/2 of permies are on mobile view. And, the path to a responsive design is to rid ourselves of old, clogged code so we can build new, amazing code.

If anyone is wanting to see a screenshot of what our new responsive design will look like, I can bring one up. I'm really excited to have things better. And I'm really grateful for everyone who's helped test and support permies.

I love and am so grateful for this awesome community of people!

ANy further insight on this?

I wouldn’t go for a weekly subscription, but probably would for monthly.

Sorry, missed further messages in the thread, please ignore.