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trying to come up with anti inflammatory protocol with few if any side effects for osteoarthritis

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First, the whole 'acid/alkaline' diet thing is bunkum.  You cannot change your internal alkalinity/acidity balance at all; changing it would kill you.  Your body regulates that irrespective of your diet.

Second, I keep my arthritis under control with diet, avoiding grains helps the most, but generally doing at least a somewhat low-carb diet is also important.  I can really tell the difference, within hours, if I eat too many carbs.  I can not take NSAIDs anymore because they are damaging my kidneys (I was using ibuprofen fairly regularly for back pain), so I have no choice but to use diet to keep the arthritis under control.  I just wish it would help with the back pain!
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I use fresh grown turmeric and black pepper mixed in with non-flavored gelatin.
It took a few weeks to start working but helps a lot with my old worn out knees.
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Heather Sharpe wrote:You might wish to consider Solomon's Seal root as a part of your protocol. It sounds like you have lots of good ideas for anti-inflammatory herbs, which is definitely important. Solomon's Seal is more for bringing moisture back to the joint and surrounding connective tissues, making movement much easier, less painful and reducing inflammation in the process, since it reduces friction. I've found it to be a huge help for my own joint pain and connective tissue issues. Another neat thing about it is that it can restore the proper tension to ligaments, whether they are too tight or too loose. I usually use the tincture. It doesn't take much to make a notable difference, usually.
You can read more about it here.

I agree with Heather that Solomon's seal is a good root to have in your medicine cabinet.  The article she points to is the one that taught me to harvest the root responsibly and sustainably.  It replaced the glucosamine my husband and I were taking and has done wonders for my knees and my husband's hip as well as one neighbor's shoulder and another's hip.  My favorite story about Solomon's Seal is concerning our dog, a Staffordshire bull terrier who went down in her back legs when she was 10 years old (she's 14 now) and could no longer get up on the couch.  I gave her a few drops of the tincture once a day in her food and within a week she was up and bouncing around again.   I give her some every day in her food and she still gets around remarkably for a dog her age and size.  

I'd say 'try it..you'll like it'.
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You'll hate this one...just like I did when I first tried it. Hated it until my joints quit hurting and the pain never came back.


Wheat, Corn, Soy, Dairy

Many years back now I stumbled onto a veterinarian's site,  Dogtor J (dogtorj.com).

The Doc started looking into why there's so much pet epilepsy in recent years and that led him to believe wheat, corn, soy and dairy in the pet food were the culprit.

He was having major health problems himself and decided to try quitting all the above.

End result was complete recovery from some serious stuff.

I was having a lot of the same  problems and more , tried it myself, and was amazed within 2-3 weeks at the difference. My major issue was joint pain but I gained unexpected benefits in a whole lot of other areas.

2-3 months out it got even better as I got some major mental benefits, the major one being a huge anxiety level decrease.

The (very) short version of why this works  -  unfamiliar (to your immune system) protiens get past your intestines into your bloodstream due to the wheat/corn/soy/dairy causing damage in your intestines. These protiens lodge in your joints and also  go past the blood/brain barrier. Your immune system goes nuts and destroys your joints and other things (which causes serious inflamation) going after the alien protiens.
The wheat and corn will seriously spike your blood sugar, with high blood sugar being linked to early ageing and diseases like Alzheimers and Diabetes.

Since finding this I've saved some friends from joint replacements, surgeries and a host of other things by suggesting this to them if they were willing to give it a go.

One great thing about it is quick results - you'll feel so much better at the 2-3 week point.

I was convinced I would never give up wheat and corn (I was quite expert at baking and loved it dearly) but the results were just too good to ignore or to risk backsliding back into how I was feeling before.

The wheat is particularly hard to quit because you actually have withdrawl from it. Wheat hits the same pleasure sensors in your brain that the opiates do.

Here's the longer, more technical version of this as explained by the doc himself:

Villous atophy of small intestine caused by dairy, wheat (wheat, barley, rye), soy,

These four “foods” (gluten grains, dairy, soy, and corn) are the only four foods
that I know of that can induce the changes in the intestinal tract (primarily the
duodenum)seen in celiac disease (gluten intolerance. The lesion is known as villous
atrophy and involves damage to and atrophy of the tiny finger-like projections of
the intestinal lining, which are responsible for absorption of nutrients.
The main nutrients absorbed by the duodenum are calcium, iron, iodine, B
complex, C, and trace minerals such as zinc, magnesium, boron, lithium, chromium,
manganese, and more. It is easy to understand why people suffering from the
food intolerances often have the worst osteoporosis, iron deficiency anemia,
thyroid problems, failing immune systems, and poor skeletal systems.

In addition, gluten, dairy, and soy contain very high levels of dietary estrogens,
which are inflammatory, immune suppressive, and neurologically stimulating. (PMS

They are also rich in the non-essential, neurostimulating amino acids glutamate
and aspartate, the parent proteins in MSG and NutraSweet respectively. These
contribute greatly to ADHD, epilepsy, pain syndromes, neurodegenerative
diseases (e.g. MS, ALS, Alzheimer’s) and more. See The GARD and Epilepsy
section for more details.

5) What is this “glue food” thing I keep reading about on your site?

Each of the “big 4? foods (gluten, casein from dairy, soy, and corn can be and
have been used to make industrial adhesives. They have made powerful
waterproof industrial adhesives from gluten, casein, and soy. In fact, soy protein
is used to make incredibly strong super-glues with which they assemble your
automobile. Your rear view mirror is stuck to the windshield using a soy-based
super-glue. Wow!

Why is this important to see? Because it illustrates the tenacity of these food
proteins. These trouble foods are “glycoproteins”…part carb, part protein…from
their main structure right down to their molecular components (lectins). The
lectins of these foods are very sticky and adhere to cells in the body inducing
inflammation. Some individuals are much more intolerant of these lectins than
others but the fact is that very high numbers of people are afflicted by one or
more of the “big 4?.

The “glue” principle is simply the thing “seen” to help us understand the things
“unseen”…the adherence of these sticky proteins to tissue and blood cells,
resulting in arthritis, neuropathies, blood disorders, and many other previously
misunderstood conditions.

Those of faith point out that our Old Testament ancestors ate wheat and drank
milk, so “How bad can it be?"
We made some very serious mistakes in our nutritional history, starting with the
blending of wheat by our Germanic ancestors. In the 4th century AD, they took
original wheat (Einkorn wheat – Triticum monococcum) and blended with it two
other grasses in the Triticum family, thus creating “common wheat”, from which
our present day wheat is derived. We know now that this act not only
dramatically increased the gluten content but also introduced the harmful
ingredient into gluten to which so many are now reacting

The next big mistake occurred when our English ancestors jumped ship from
goat’s milk (the universal foster milk) to cow’s milk as their source of dairy
products. The difference in the casein fraction is subtle but immunologically
immense. Plus, we know now that these Anglo-Saxons chose the wrong cows back
in the 1500’s when they picked what are now termed “A1 cattle” (the western
European varieties – the Jersey, Guernsey, and Holstein) vs the “A2? variety (the
Zebu or Brahma). A Google search tells you all that you need to know about the
ramifications of their choice – BCM7 (beta casomorphin 7), the origin of type 1
diabetes and “the milk devil”.

Recently, researchers have isolated the protein that triggers type-1 diabetes.
They have known for years that our children who get cow’s milk in the first five
days of life have a 40-50 times higher rate of type-1 diabetes than the  general
population. But they also noted that Africa’s Masai, who drink the milk of the
Brahma, never experience type-1 diabetes. So these scientists took a group of
diabetes-prone, non-diabetic rats and divided them into two groups – those to
receive A1 milk from the western European cattle and those to get A2 from the
Zebu/Brahma. Nearly half of those receiving A1 milk developed diabetes and none
of those getting A2 developed the condition. The researchers went on to isolate
the single protein that was causing the problem and, in that protein, they found
one alteration in the amino acid sequence that made the difference. That’s the
razor’s edge on which we live, just like the exact nature of the earth’s orbit
required to sustain life.

The Asian Mistake

The “third plague”, as I like to call it, is soy….the Asian mistake. This
health-robbing legume was buried underground in one remote area of world and
used for years as a non-edible plant used in crop rotation to add nitrogen back to
the soil. It took the Asians years to decide to eat it but first they had to develop
the means to make it safe for consumption. They learned that fermentation made
soy more tolerable just like our ancestors discovered with dairy products (e.g.
yogurt, kefir). Interestingly, rice and rice-based wines turned out to be antidotes
for some of the harmful properties of their newest culinary creation, in the same
way that Italians learned to consume wine, high fat meats, olive oil and vinegar to
protect themselves against their passion for pasta. But we should know that any
food that requires as much processing as soy – just to make it safe to eat – will
cause problems in individuals even when properly prepared.

And yet, the soy industry tried to tell us that soy was a health food and that
Asians were healthier because of the soy they consumed. Thankfully, we quickly
found out the truth. The only reason that Asians (in Asia) are healthier than
Americans in some aspects is because their traditional diet has NO gluten, NO
dairy, and NO corn. Soy was their mistake and its gut and tissue-damaging
lectins, its overwhelming levels of isoflavones, and its wide array of anti-nutrients
tell the tale. No one talks about the fact that Asians actually only live one year
longer than the Swiss (and I don’t see them pounding down the soy) and lead the
pack in the incidence of stomach cancer.

Like dairy, soy has altered the outward appearance and the internal mechanics of
our children. The most notable fact is that the first menstrual cycle of our little
girls is occurring much earlier than normal. It was generally accepted in the past
that the first menses occurred at 15 years of age. We know from studying this
event in the Japanese children before and after WW2, that increased dairy
consumption (Americanization has its toll) brought this age down to 12. But soy
has dropped this age down into the single digits. It is now reported that nearly
20% of our little girls have their first menstrual cycle by age 8. Wow! If that is
not bad enough, I was giving this “lecture” to a woman on the local school board
the other day in my office and she told me that there were three nine year-olds
in our school system that were pregnant . Unbelievable. Isoflavones are a very
real threat to our children’s development, including our males. I’ll leave that part
to your imagination and Google.

That leaves corn – the “gift of the American Indian”, as many of us view it. “Corn
must be healthy if the Indians ate it”, a number of people have said to me.
Ahhh…but the history of corn is one of the most interesting. It took thousands of
years for the Hispanic ancestors to create the ear we see now. It started out as
a useless grain in a single valley down in meso-America. And everywhere corn was
introduced, pellagra (niacin deficiency) broke out. Wikipedia incorrectly blames
this on the fact that niacin is deeply locked in the kernel of the corn. That would
be the answer IF corn was their only source of niacin, which it was not. No…corn
caused the niacin deficiency because it induced villous atrophy in those sensitized
individuals who consumed it, just as it does in countless people and animals today
(with rising corn allergies being the outward sign). That’s why pellagra broke out.
They could not absorb the niacin from any dietary source once the lining of the
gut was damaged. Yes…corn is nasty stuff, supported by the fact that corn
gluten meal kills other plants (a “natural herbicide”) and corn meal can be used to
kill insects. That’s why it puts fat on anything that consumes it: Fat is the body’s
recycle bin and we form new fat cells in order to shuttle bad things out of the
general circulation and into the “trash file”.

Our Body Knows What It is Doing

The only other things that damage our villi in the way that these foods do are
viruses and fluoride, both of which give us important insight into why gluten, et al
do this to our intestinal lining. Why does a toxic does of fluoride cause extreme
damage to those finger-like projections called villi? To keep us from absorbing it.
The same thing holds true for gluten, dairy, soy and corn. This drastic change is
meant to be a temporary means of protecting us. But what part of the cell makes
the decision to shrink our villi? Our residential microorganisms do this. Yes,
viruses and pleomorphic bacteria are responsible for this amazing adaptive
process. I guess we should stop dissing them so badly, eh? Much of what we call
“disease” is simply an outward sign of this adaptive process. These resident
microbes are on our side!

The bad news is that the damaged food chain does not end here. Have you heard
that we can be “secondarily glutenized” by eating the flesh of animals that are
fed these food items? This is a very real issue and I am now getting testimonials
from people who have seen major advances in choosing grass fed beef and free
range, range-fed chicken and their eggs over the grain-fed varieties. This can be
especially important in the treatment of immune-mediated diseases as well as
neurodegenerative and neuropsychiatric disorders.

Oats ARE high in glutamate. That’s why I recommend that those with epilepsy,
migraines, fibromyalgia, etc avoid them until they see a good resolution of their
problem. They are gluten-free unless contaminated with other gluten grains (e.g.
wheat) during harvesting, which unfortunately does occur with regularity. Gluten,
of course, is not the only rich source of glutamate, as nuts, seeds, cheese, soy,
etc are also rich. The problem with nuts is that we just eat too many of them. All
we need is about 7 almonds or 10 peanuts to get what we need from them for
the day. How many people do you know that eat only 7-10 peanuts.

When the intestinal villi are damaged badly enough by the “big 4? foods, the gut
releases a substance called zonulin. This hormone “opens” the intestinal immune
barriers in order to facilitate the absorption of nutrients that was being carried
out by the healthy villi. This, along with the amazing ability of the ileum to
compensate for this damage, is the intestine’s “plan B” for nutrient absorption.
But as often occurs, plan B comes with a price, which is the fact that some things
that normally wouldn’t pass through the intestinal barriers manage to do so and
get into the bloodstream. This included macromolecules of food (partially
undigested) that the immune system no longer recognizes as normal, resulting in
antibodies being formed to that food. But it also includes chemicals and infectious
agents that we now know play a role in the development of secondary health
issues, such as type 1 diabetes and juvenile pancreatic atrophy (digestive enzyme
deficiency). Google zonulin for a very interesting read.

This process is the known pathomechanism behind secondary food allergies, which
occur when we form antibodies to otherwise healthy foods such as eggs, meats,
tropical fruits, tree nuts, shellfish, vegetables, and the like. The primary allergens
are the “big 4?- gluten (wheat, barley, rye, and all forms of wheat), dairy soy and
corn- because they are the ones doing the intestinal damage and eliciting the
immune response. All others are secondary by nature. Some of these secondary
foods are totally healthy for us (e.g. eggs, fruits, vegetables) but some of the
secondary food allergens make perfect sense, as the Food Allergies appetizer

The Food Opioids

The following is an Email that I sent to the Friends of DogtorJ concerning these
critically important morphine-like derivatives from dairy and wheat. Beta
casomorphin 7 (BCM7) from cow’s milk (A1 variety) is ten times more powerful
than morphine. Wow! You will be shocked- but not surprised- to see the role they
play in our every day lives (e.g. post meal depression, autism, chronic fatigue, the
down cycle of ADHD). And yet…most have never heard the terms.
gtor J

Casomorphins and Gliadomorphins- The Food Opioids

Dear Friends,

I just received the two links below from a friend suffering from this exact issue.
These morphine-like substances (casomorphins and gliadomorphins) that we derive
from dairy and wheat, respectively, are critical to our understanding of the
power of these two foods. They help to explain why 75% of the calories in the
standard American diet (SAD) come from these wheat and dairy alone. Food
addiction is a very real thing and these opiods play a huge role.

As noted in one of the articles, many autistic children are completely addicted to
wheat and dairy, which is consistent with the idea that we become addicted to
what will make us ill (cigarettes, drugs, alcohol and food ). There are no healthy
addictions and food is no exception. If an individual feels like they cannot give up
cheese or bread, then they are very likely to be having a problem with one of
these foods. I counsel people like this all of the time and can use that dependency
to help them see that those very foods are a major contributor to their IBS,
arthritis, depression, or other typical signs associated with food intolerance. And
withdrawal from these foods can lead to classic drug-withdrawal symptoms as
the articles below point out.

These sedating compounds are also the single biggest contributing factor to
post-meal drowsiness. I have proven this in my own life as I used to become
extremely sleepy after meals starting in my late 30’s. My wife was beginning to
think I was a narcoleptic. I would literally pass out during our favorite TV show. I
no longer exhibit this annoying and even dangerous symptom now that I am gluten
and dairy-free. In fact, it has been stated that more people die from falling
asleep at the wheel while driving than from alcohol-related accidents. What could
be doing this? What could keep us from doing the most important thing (staying
awake) while driving down the Interstate at 65-80 mph? Now you know. Throw
alcohol into the mix and you have a tragic situation just waiting to happen.

We need to become very familiar with these two terms. I have yet to casually
meet anyone who has heard them over the seven years following my first
encounter with them in the literature…not a doctor nor a lay person. Amazing.
And yet they play a vital role in the lives of the multitudes, contributing to food
addiction, clinical depression, chronic fatigue, caffeine addiction, autism, highway
deaths, and more.

Amaze your friends! Commit these to memory and talk about them at dinner
parties. You’ll be the focus of attention.

Here are the links:





- Dogtor J


OK, back to me (Dave) now.

Fortunately, you don't have to feel deprived by eating this way. The newly populat Paleo or Ketogenic diets fit this well.
You do need a few carbohydrates but best to get them from things like rice or potatoes.

Sugar in all its forms is a killer. Cut it way down or eliminate it and you've taken a big step towards elominating major diseases.

My personal experience quitting sugar got rid of reoccuring skin cancer.

Some other health experiments I've had good results from:

Have a look at intermittent fasting too. This did some really good things for me like weight loss without food cravings and feeling better overall. Here's a good description:



I've got another experiment going with doing the Linus Pauling vitamin C and L -  Lysine high dosages.
The  gains there so far are my vision holding steady at the same prescription and some cataracts, torn retina problems and "floaters"  that were starting up a few years back are gone. Supposed to be good for heart and circulatory system too.

There's a lot on this if you Google it and Linus Pauling wrote a book on it before he died.


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C Mouse wrote:My mom had serious degenerative arthritis. She SWORE by sour cherry juice. It's expensive, she'd buy it in glass bottles and dilute it into water and drink it every night. Placebo or not she seemed to start doing a lot better! If the sour cherry wasn't there she got black cherry but she said the sour cherry worked better.

What kind of sour cherry?
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Heather Sharpe wrote:You might wish to consider Solomon's Seal root as a part of your protocol. It sounds like you have lots of good ideas for anti-inflammatory herbs, which is definitely important. Solomon's Seal is more for bringing moisture back to the joint and surrounding connective tissues, making movement much easier, less painful and reducing inflammation in the process, since it reduces friction. I've found it to be a huge help for my own joint pain and connective tissue issues. Another neat thing about it is that it can restore the proper tension to ligaments, whether they are too tight or too loose. I usually use the tincture. It doesn't take much to make a notable difference, usually.
You can read more about it here.

Soloman's Seal made a huge difference to me. I work on a computer and developed constant pain in my wrists and finger joints. It was going on 3 weeks, I had tried wrist braces, hot/cold packs, etc with no relief. I took a soloman's seal tincture that my wife made and literally the next day the pain was halved. By the second or third day I felt back to normal. Now it's part of my regular regime. I've encouraged lots of other folks that spend time typing to try it out and they have had positive results too.
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These guys have been a huge help to me in addressing physical health issues and made my life way better. All just by doing simple exercises and making some modifications to how I move! Priceless stuff to me. Which is great, since I can't afford to go to a physical therapist. These guys and an herbalist friend basically are my "doctors'.

I've also had incredible reduction in pain from intentionally stinging the affected joint with nettles. It does sting for a little while, but it also makes it stop hurting and move more easily very quickly. Usually the pain is gone for days if not longer.
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My two cents worth...after having taken two extra strength Naproxen Sodium caplets every day for about two years in an attempt to ease my knees' pain, I stumbled over the tidbit that it could cause the alarming edema that had suddenly shown up in my leg.  That was 2015.  I haven't taken an NSAID of any kind since. The edema promptly went away.   This year (2021) I stumbled across the tidbit that too much of two amino acids (that were prominent in the collagen I added to my coffee) can aggravate inflammation.  I cut out the collagen and noticed much lessening of pain.  The most interesting improvements have recently shown up since I modified my vitamin supplementation; specifically B-3, Niacin.  B vitamins are water soluble and your body can only use so much at a time.  The excess is peed away.  So my megadosing once or twice a day assured a supply "for the moment" and then an insufficiency after the excess had been flushed.  I have noticed marked lessening of discomfort and increase of function since I began taking divided doses as frequently as every 90 minutes.  Doses are different for everybody.  You need to sort that out for yourself.  Niacin: the real story, a book co-authored by Andrew Saul, is an excellent primer for that.  I buy niacin in bulk powder form and spend about $0.04/ day on ten 136mg doses.  The real expense is in the 10 interruptions you have to discipline yourself to do.  Good results help with that.  This isn't instantaneous, but neither were the causes of my knee issues.  Other things do doubt have helped as well.  No sugar, Organic food, time restricted eating, dropping about 15 pounds, multiple,multi-mile hikes each week.  I'm 68 and doing much better than I did at 58.
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Yes - concur with IF (Intermittent Fasting).  Controlling cell autophagy, redistribution of energy (and the time in your day lol), weight loss, mind clearing: are many benefits that I've experienced.

you know, when I'm diligent enough to follow it
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I have had various swelling, inflammation, and nw, bone spurs most of my life. Allopathic medicine diagnoses me as having psoriatic arthritis.
The best I ever felt is when I was 100% raw for six months!!
The second best are functional teas I make and sell. I find my bath teas are particularly effective. Website is https://chandratea.square.site
Third thing that really works for me is raw almonds-they release a chemical when you bite into them that is particularly good for the synovial fluid in your joints. Mayo Clinic researched this in 90s.
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I have osteoporosis in my shoulder. When pain from moving my arm became intolerable, about once every 3 months I went for a cortisone injection in the shoulder joint. The injection pain was worth it because within a minute or two, I could move my arm without pain.

However, I read that arthritis can be caused by an acidic system. And that lemon juice changed your acidic system to alkaline.

As a result of drinking two freshly squeezed lemons every day for the past 3 years, I live mostly pain-free with great improvement in mobility.

While it might seem counterintuitive, the lemon juice fixed my heartburn too. I don't have to live on antacids anymore. Apparently, the citric acid in lemons neutralizes uric acid in the body and even though acidic, lemon juice helps promote the production of digestive juices including bicarbonate and calcium carbonate that helps to neutralize acidity in the body.

Meyer lemons are my favorite when I can find them!

See this article about how lemon juice helps with arthritis pain:


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I'm glad to see people voicing caution about using NSAIDs. While it can blunt the pain, it's use actually furthers destruction of the joint. Here's how:
Our body makes many "inflammatory cytokines" (cytokines are messenger compounds), and not all of these are bad.
Ibuprofen and NSAIDS are global inhibitors of the cyclooxygenase system (COX isoenzymes, COX-2 and COX-1).
While COX-2 inhibition is helpful for reducing pain, these drugs are non-selective and also inhibit COX-1, the Housekeeping molecule necessary for daily healing and rebuilding of joints (and other tissues, like the kidney). This means that chronically taking NSAIDs prevents the body from repairing itself.

While pharmaceutical companies have focused primarily on inhibiting the COX-family, for many people with osteoarthritis, the LOX (lipoxygenase) family of cytokines tend to be more involved in causing pain. Boswellia (frankincense) is a specific inhibitor of 5-LOX, without suppressing our beneficial (COX-1) pathway.

We also want to remember that relieving pain is only part of the plan. You want to address the underlying barriers to healing as well—address the root cause. The idea that nothing can be done, that joints just wear down from over-use and age? That view needs updating. Our bodies are meant to repair all our parts: our bones grow back, our teeth repair cavities, our brain continues to generate new neurons well into our 80s. When this isn't happening well, it's time to find and remove barriers to healing.

Lots of good comments in this thread to that aspect: hydration, providing nutrients needed to rebuild the joint (bone broth, collagen, pectin),  Bone Morphogenic Proteins...
Vitamin D mentioned above is nice for pain: it doesn't block the cytokine pathways, rather it speeds the breakdown of pain chemicals in the body so they don't persist.
Using caution with grains or foods you are sensitive to helps by reducing Leaky Gut (which triggers more inflammation and allows into circulation microparticles that get forced out of circulation and stored away in joints triggering more pain/inflammation).

Healing requires time spent in parasympathetic (vs sympathetic "fight-or-flight") nervous system. Sometimes healing doesn't come simply because so many people are sympathic dominant. So if you're doing all the above and still suffering, consider exploring techniques that bolster vagal and paraysmpathetic mode: rest, relax, digest, breathe, sleep, laughter, things that bring joy, stress management...
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With osteoarthritis The inflammation is  secondary.  With rheumatoid arthritis it is primary. Osteoarthritis is by translation osteo bone arthrose joint itis irritation. Removing the neuromuscular pressure on the joint is what gives relief. The suggestions above are helpful for the repair but the first action is to solve the puzzle of why your body is being triggered to keep a constant pressure on the joint causing the edges to make additional bone defensively.  That is what has become my specialty and I would be glad to help you.
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