Sarah Mae wrote:I think the term *waste* should only be used to indicate inefficient use. Clearly naturally-generated organic matter itself can never be waste, though it is sadly most often wasted in North America...
Xisca Nicolas wrote:"Waste" means that you loose it or that it cannot be used efficiently.
It seems that "naturally-generated organic matter" can be a waste, if the transformation does not provide what we want but other side products such as nitrates...
If what is "naturally-generated" is not available to plants or goes into the underground water table, then it is a waste, even if it looks like nice soil.
If some invisible by-products accelerate the decomposition of the organic matter, thus giving the appearance of a big nice boost to the plants, then not only this is a waste, but this is armful.
Gord Baird wrote:We have been on the bucket for seven years, and there is six of us. We have literally never had an issue with smell with either of the two bathrooms in the house. We have compartments that hold two buckets, and when the two buckets become full of both pee and poo (and shavings), then they go outside and are replaced with two more buckets. When I have ten full buckets (once a week) I open the pile and dump them. Here is a link to a video of the dumping.
We also do a lot of research and policy work around such things, and have been able to legalize the bucket system, and have even built one at a local regional park, where we also service them. Neighbours bring their friends by just to look at the bathroom... and again no smell. The research and analysis on the compost allows us to safely ensure we can use the composted materilas on the food gardens, as well as hen I do a presentation to schoolkids or engineers, I can let them handle and smell the compost.
One key point, if you remove the urine from the bucket, you are removing the nitrogen from the system, and the composting process is less vigorous and the end product is nitrogen deficient (as studied at UBC Choi toilets that do separate). The course we teach on grey water and composting toilets has one common point... if it smells then your doing wrong - neither should ever smell.
In our home we run a 24VDC 50cfm fan which keeps the slightest of air flows through the toilet compartment - this also seconds as the bathroom exhaust fan, as well as services the whole house's demands under the building code to meet the required air changes per hour. Don't be nervous... trust what Joe Jenkins has written... everything goes into the bucket and give it plenty of cover material, more if it seems sloppy. My fovorite time of the year is when I dig into my 2 year old pile and place it in the gardens. All exciting!
Xisca Nicolas wrote:Sarah, I was not responding to you only, but shared a link with info that I am deceived noone seems to go an read!
Xisca Nicolas wrote:
Urine that is not mixed to herbal materials will very quickly (few hours) change into ammonia that will oxidize into nitrates in the soil!
Apart from the size, it seems it is like spreading liquid pig manure!
If you separate urine, absolutely throw it on TOP of the compost pile, so that it mixes with cellulose.
I have also learned in this website that urine and other stuffs SEEM to do good because plants love them. But actually, it is doing the same as chemical fertilizers: it accelerate the transformation of humus. A real compost should create more humus.
I might not be good at explaining, then you can read this website, and I hope the English translation is good and the pages as complete as in French.
Brunhilda Bierman wrote:Amelia, I love your setup! Do you fill the bin from inside, or does it also open to an outdoor source of sawdust?
As far as this thread is concerned, I have a somewhat related question... My husband and I are eagerly planning to use a "bucket toilet" and to remove the whole concept of black water from our lives. Then I remembered that I would like to use cloth diapers for our children...this complicates things a bit. Does anyone here have any good suggestions for dealing with a minimal amount of black water for cleaning baby things only? We are still in the design phase of our house, so any suggestions as to how to incorporate this would be appreciated! At least for a while, we will likely be using a pair of galvanized wash/rinse tubs which could be "easily" diverted to a seperate drainage location when needed.
Charlotte Boord wrote:Would the sawdust from the local big box home improvements stores be OK to use? If they're cutting 'treated' wood, then the sawdust is also 'treated", correct? Can I still use this in my bucket?