L. Johnson wrote:
I'd like to be more like Edward Norton and get a cargo bike going! But I'm a wimp and don't want to bike in the rain. Maybe California will do some more cycling incentives to support the transition?
Which leads to the issue of how the world is actually going to *make* all these new electric cars and what the embodied energy will represent.
Eric Hanson wrote:That is an impressive list. Also, it addresses something that I was wondering about but did not directly ask: It sounds like petrol/diesel *fuels* are still available, but the vehicles are getting more scarce. Is that about correct?
Jordan Holland wrote:Just saw this from Babylon Bee:
Jay Angler wrote:
Are there people looking seriously into converting ICE vehicles into electric vehicles? At least many of the small ones? ...
James Alun wrote:Eric, you might find this interesting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinorwig_Power_Station
Batteries are ... cute. Pumped hydro is more interesting solution (unless you live somewhere very flat!).
The intro highlights the difference between energy and power.
Edward Norton wrote:
8. India: set a target of 100% electric vehicles by 2030, and is considering a ban on petrol-powered 2- and 3-wheeled vehicles by 2025.
The downside that many people forget is the issue of evaporation. Lake Ont to Lake Huron wouldn't be an issue many summers if we're having typical thunderstorm weather, but I can remember about a decade ago they had a massive drought and if people were counting on pumped storage they'd have been out of luck.
Eric Hanson wrote:As far as pumped storage, I am pretty well acquainted with the concept. One of its major problems is that it does require a large elevation differential (easy in California). The downside is that it really requires the *right* place and there are always people who oppose converting more wild and/or rural land to semi-industrial usage.
The soaring energy prices across the pond come amid a major pivot in the US toward electric vehicles with President Biden’s new climate spending law pumping billions of dollars into producing EVs and providing tax credits to people who buy them.
What’s more, California last week became the first state to begin phasing out the sale of new gasoline-powered vehicles. The phase-out starts in 2026 with a 2035 deadline to end sales of new gasoline-powered cars. Many other Democratic-run states are expected to follow California’s lead.
Electricity prices in the UK will nearly double from about 33 cents per kWh to 60 cents per kWh, making electric vehicles cost more before and after driving them off the lot. By comparison, the average electricity cost in the US is less than 11 cents per kWh, according to the Energy Information Administration.
With UK electricity prices and gasoline at roughly $7.40 per gallon, the owner of a $40,000 electric Kia NIRO would spend more than $100 more to travel 400 miles than the owner of a $26,000 gas-powered Kia Sportage, according to an analysis by UK roadside assistance RAC service, the country’s AAA equivalent.
A $71,000 Jaguar I-PACE would cost nearly $115 more to go those 400 miles than its gas-powered equivalent, the $52,000 Jaguar F-PACE.