leila hamaya wrote:
as an artist and a crafts person, and knowing lots of craftspeople and people who produce things and grow food, the real PINTA is actually finding a way to sell the things i make and grow. i used to be quite obsessed with my work, or at least the selling part, and i somehow, through epic journeys and being obsessed with it, somehow eeked out a small income, but it was sooooo hard for me to do. like some many artist/craftspeople/small scale farmer/gardeners -it is really not in my personality to sell things, run a business, or be that organized to really create a real livable income. eventually i burnt out on all the travlling and getting booths and all the selling part. i am enjoying my life a lot more but my income has shrunk, even though i still create lots of art and crafts, they just get stuck in a box....or at the few galleries, but even that is a long journey to get them out in the world and they only take so much at once.
C. Hunter wrote:One thing specifically was your ham example- in order to have that kind of thing and make it useable by the membership, you will generally have to have a commercial kitchen setup.
C. Hunter wrote: it can also be nice for them to have 'classmates'
Rufus Laggren wrote:leila
> [the market]
Do you know of anything the remotely resembles what you have in mind? Historically or anything? What about ebay? Probably not your favorite venue but it's a very easy-entry market place so maybe it would fill the void in some ways at least.
Ken Peavey wrote:
18 years ago I had a candy company. There was a store in Maine that sold arts and crafts on consignment but you had to rent the space. A typical space was 4 feet wide, 2 feet deep, 7 feet tall. It was a stud frame, you had to finish the space to your liking. There was a small monthly rent, I think it was 20 bucks. You labelled each item with your sticker or tag. The tag had the price and your vendor number. When the item was sold, the vendor number was recorded in the computer. The store kept 10% of the sale price, with a lower rate as total monthly sales hit certain breakpoints. They took care of the lights, the cashier, sales taxes, advertising, everything. All you had to do was keep your booth stocked. They had 2 stores, I put lollipops and chocolates in both. It was an easy hundred bucks a month. The check I received in January was several hundred.
It would be a huge advantage if we can get a license for a kitchen on site. It all comes down to local and county health codes. In some places a license can be issued for a home kitchen. Some places can issue a license for an uninhabited structure. Some places have zoning ordinances that limit land use and the commercial kitchen would not be allowed. There is always the ability to set up a kitchen and store in town. That bridge would be crossed when the time comes.
Rufus Laggren wrote:
I think what you're describing it may be on the order of "if I ruled the world". After all, most of us do have to do _something_ on the order of work right? Original Sin has been the traditional way to explain this sorry situation...
Rufus Laggren wrote:
However, personal marketing is one of the places the internet has really made huge changes in our lives. There are people who make a living accepting "sellables" and marketing them on ebay including all photos, shipping, etc for a commission. I don't know what their take is and it may be as much as 50% but they do provide almost the seamless service you dream of.
Ken Peavey wrote:If the structure was available, a large group could set up a Creative Reuse Center, it would quickly be filled with materials for artists and crafters to draw supplies and ideas. Cottages or booths could be set up to hold a craft fair now and then, giving the artists and crafters a means of supporting themselves while drawing the general public to the farm as well as the Creative Reuse Center.
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