Juglone and leeks

The title pretty much says it all. I'm working out a companion planting plan for next year, and i have black walnut and butternut trees to consider.

I know onions and garlic are tolerant to juglone, but will leeks/ramps do well near the walnuts too?

Any experience is appreciated.

Regards,
Matt

Matthew McCoul : Leaks grow truly wild, and as transplants. or as volunteers ,They generally are very tolerant of wet conditions and places. I have planted
Walnut and Butternut on the sides of hills 5-10 feet above the places where I find Leaks, Trilliums are another easy to id flower that I use to find places
for Black walnut and for Butternut saplings and plant there, It is only my own personal theory that makes me hesitant to plant These saplings in ground
favored by Leeks!

Hopefully we both will get lots of second opinions !

For the Good of the Craft !Big AL

I had no idea what juglone was... In case anyone else is wondering... Here's some info I found. http://extension.psu.edu/plants/gardening/fact-sheets/trees-shrubs/landscaping-and-gardening-around-walnuts-and-other-juglone-producing-plants

The ongoing bane of my garden… when I first started my garden several years ago, I had a few saplings along the tree line, on the northern facing edge of where I put my garden. Didn’t know what they were at first, so I just left them be. When they first started dropping the green grenades, I had no idea they had walnuts inside, but didn’t think much of them because they were still small trees. I have tried harvesting them in the past, and I’ve had good success, but the shells are so hard, and the meat is so intertwined in it, that I decided it wasn’t worth all of the effort. Now, I am stuck with 3 30 foot walnut trees that poison anything I try to grow, other than herbs, squash and alliums, and whenever I get around to taking them down, they will still be poisoning the soil for years. The worst part is everything grows great, right up until it’s time for the veggies to fruit, then everything either dies or wilts to nothing

Wayne Robinson wrote:The ongoing bane of my garden… when I first started my garden several years ago, I had a few saplings along the tree line, on the northern facing edge of where I put my garden. Didn’t know what they were at first, so I just left them be. When they first started dropping the green grenades, I had no idea they had walnuts inside, but didn’t think much of them because they were still small trees. I have tried harvesting them in the past, and I’ve had good success, but the shells are so hard, and the meat is so intertwined in it, that I decided it wasn’t worth all of the effort. Now, I am stuck with 3 30 foot walnut trees that poison anything I try to grow, other than herbs, squash and alliums, and whenever I get around to taking them down, they will still be poisoning the soil for years. The worst part is everything grows great, right up until it’s time for the veggies to fruit, then everything either dies or wilts to nothing

Have you tried tapping them? Black Walnut Syrup is divine.

I'm curious about this, too. I do have a couple of walking onions which are actually growing in the pile of raked up European walnut leaves!

Goosegrass, elderberry, and self-sown wild plums seem to grow well even in the dense shade of the walnut, lemom balm is happy in a spot where it gets morning sun and the walnut provides midday and afternoon shade. But I haven't gotten much else started there.  

I'd like to establish ramsons under the tree, though I don't think they're quite the same as American ramps. Also raspberries may grow, especially in the dappled shade at the edge of the walnut.

If removing the trees is beneficial to you and your site, it may be something to consider. Walnut is prized lumber these days and burns great in wood stoves. You may find people eager to take down the walnuts.

We have several on a fenceline that provide excellent shade for our grazing livestock and they are antiparasitic so our crew of critters loves self-medicating and hanging out under them. They have a good place here but aren't always useful and appreciated.

Don't raspberries do well with walnut? I think so?  As for leeks, typically if some allium do well then any would.