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I thought it would be a good idea to create a thread about the techniques of Grafting Trees as a reference guide. (This is a long post)

I am giving the basics here, later if there is enough interest, I will put up some of the experimental techniques I have been using over the last 30 years.
I still call them experimental because there are only a few folks who have been trying unusual things in the field of grafting.

The methods and techniques below are the NORM for grafts.


Grafting describes any of a number of techniques in which a section of a stem with leaf buds is inserted into the stock of a tree. Grafting is useful however, for more than reproduction of an original cultivar. It is also used to repair injured fruit trees or for top-working an established tree to one or more different cultivars. Nurseries often use the budding method to produce fruit trees. Asphalt grafting compound or another type of grafting compound is applied to a completed whip graft to prevent wood tissues from drying out. This method is used mainly on young apple and pear trees when branches are small.

By top-working you can do the following:
An undesirable cultivar can be changed by grafting a preferred cultivar to the branches.
Cultivars that lack hardiness or have poor crotches (narrow angled) can be made more durable by grafting them on hardy, strong-crotched cultivars such as Hibernal, Virginia, or Columbia Crab.
Pollinator cultivars can be grown much sooner by top-working than by planting young trees.
New cultivars for trial can be brought into bearing in 2 or 3 years if top-worked on stock of bearing age.
Interesting novelties can be developed by grafting several cultivars on one tree.

A Glossary of Grafting Terms

Top-working – The operation of cutting back the branches and top of an established tree and budding or grafting part of another tree on it.
Understock or stock – The part on which the scion is inserted; the part below the graft.
Rootstock – That part of a tree which becomes the root system of a grafted or budded tree.
Scion – A piece of last year's growth with three or four buds; the part inserted on the understock.
Cambium – The growing part of the tree; located between the wood and bark. At the season when bark separates freely, cambium will be both on the wood surface and on the inner bark.
Dormant – The condition of live trees at rest – as in winter.
Budding – A type of grafting that consists of inserting a single bud into a stock. It is generally done in late July and August, the latter part of the growing season.
Budstick – A shoot of the current season's growth used for budding. Leaves are removed, leaving 1/2 inch of leaf stem for a handle.
Cultivar – Denotes a cultivated type of plant. (Now used in place of the term "variety.")

What trees can be grafted?

Young, vigorous fruit trees up to 5 years old are best for top-working. Older apple and pear trees of almost any age can be top-worked but the operation is more severe and those over 10 years old must be worked at a higher point. Hibernal, Columbia, or Virginia crab, because of their vigor and their strong, well-placed branches, are very good understocks.
Young trees should have 1 to 2 feet of branch between the trunk and the graft. Otherwise the good crotch formation of the understock will be lost by the trunk expanding past the union.
Trees up to 5 years old can be grafted at one time. On older trees about half – the upper and center part only – should be worked at one time. The remainder should be worked a year later.

How to collect and store scions

Scions are selected from the previous season's growth, while they are dormant, but before growth begins in the spring. If the scions are left on the tree until spring, however, there is some danger that the buds will start to grow or be injured during winter. Scions cut in November grow best in Minnesota.
The scions should be tied securely, carefully labeled and placed in moist (not wet) sawdust or moss or wrapped in plastic material. They should be kept in a cool, moist place where they will remain fresh and dormant until spring.

When to graft

It is best to graft in the spring, from the time the buds of understock trees are beginning to open, until blossom time. The usual time is April or early May.

Tools and materials needed

1. Budding knife
2. Grafting knife
3. A fine-tooth saw for cleft grafting
4. Pruning shears
5. Dormant scions (cultivar labeled)
6. Tying material such as grafting tape, adhesive tape, electrician's ber tape or rubber strips
7. Asphalt water emulsion compound for covering grafts
8. A light hammer for bridge grafting
9. A cleft-grafting chisel and mallet, or a heavy knife or hatchet can be used for a small job

Protective coatings

All grafts should be covered with a protective coating immediately after completing the graft.
Electrician's tape is an excellent material that will bind and protect graft unions. Choose a brand that is elastic and amply adhesive. A good tape for the purpose will stick well to itself. Do not stretch this tape too tightly or it may crack or weather. Better brands will last throughout the first summer, after which the tape is no longer needed.
Asphalt water emulsion is now widely used as a protective coating on graft unions. It is of pasty consistency and can be applied with a brush. It is preferable, however, to smear it on thicker with a small paddle.

The Whip Graft

The whip graft is used mostly on young apple and pear trees when the branches are relatively small (not more than 1/2-inch in diameter) and the understock is about the same diameter as the scion of the new cultivar.
Cut – Cut off a branch of the understock, leaving a stub at least a foot long. Make a straight, slanting cut about 1 1/2inches long on both the scion and the stock (see A and C in Figure 3). Make the cut straight and even – one stroke with a sharp knife will do it. For the tongue, make a straight draw cut (not split), beginning near the top and cutting about the full length of the level (B and D).
Union – Match the two parts together (E). Unless the scion and stock are the same size, be sure the scion is in contact with the inner bark on one side. If the toe of either the stock or scion extend beyond the heel of the other, cut if off evenly.
Tying and covering – Bind tightly with tape, then carefully cover the union and binding material with grafting compound.
This type of graft is difficult for the beginner but is used extensively by experienced operators. It lends itself to the tape method of binding. Tape serves to seal the wound and bind the parts together.
While other types of grafts depend on the bark slipping well, the whip graft does not. In fact, it is best if you make this graft before the narrow tongue of wood.
Aftercare – Remove wrapping as soon as the scion has started to grow to prevent girdling of the tree.

The Cleft Graft

The cleft graft is used for topworking older established apple and pear trees, either on the trunk of a small tree or on the side branches of a larger tree. It is best adapted to branches 1 to 2 inches in diameter. The grafts are made within 2 to 3 feet of the trunk or main branches and preferably not more than 4 to 6 feet from ground, or new top of tree will be too high.

Cuts – Select a place free from knots and cut off the stock with a saw. Cut the cleft (avoid splitting if possible) with a grafting chisel, large knife or hatchet. After a few trials you will learn the proper depth of cleft. In horizontal branches, the cleft should be sidewise, that is, not perpendicular, to reduce breakage from birds and storms.

With a sloping cut about 1/4 inch above the upper bud, cut the scions to include three buds, and to a blunt wedge about 1 1/2 inches in length with one side slightly thicker than the other. If the scion wedge is cut to a sharp point there is danger of the bark peeling. Also a sharp scion wedge' will not fit the cleft as well.

Union – Open the cleft slightly with a grafting tool or screw driver. Insert a scion on each side, with the inner bark of stock and scion in contact. Have the thick side of the scion outward.

Keep in mind that the bark of the larger stock is thicker than the scion bark, so the scion should not be flush with the stock. A very slight tilt will assure a contact, at least where the cambium layers cross.

Tying and covering – There is no need to tie, unless the stock is small and does not bind well. Cover the unions with grafting compound and be sure the cleft is covered its full length.

Aftercare – Scions that are growing vigorously will need attention to prevent breakage by birds, ice and storms. Either tie the scion to a supporting brace, or pinch back the tips before growth becomes excessive. For additional support, circle all the shoots from one stub with twine.

During the first season, let all scions and the shoot growth from below the graft grow undisturbed. However, do not permit this understock growth to shade out the scions. The second spring, select the most suitable scion as the permanent branch and consider the others as spares. Leave the spare scions on to assist in healing over the stub, but cut them back to a few buds on each. The third spring, severely cut back the spare scions again. In the fourth season, or when crowding is noted, cut off all of the spare scions as seems necessary.

The modified cleft graft

Instead of trying to master the whip graft or side graft, use a simple kind of cleft graft on small understock. Stock about the same size as the scion may be split and a wedge-shaped scion inserted.

Should the stock be larger than the scion, be careful to set the scion to one side instead of on center. In this way the cambium of stock and scion will make contact.

Wrap this graft union carefully with a good grade of rubber tape. As the graft grows the tape stretches and eventually deteriorates.

Very large trees are generally poor subjects for cleft grafting, so when grafting their large branches, a slightly different method is ordinarily used.

Carefully saw off the branch undercutting it first to avoid tearing the bark. You may need to recut the stub to get it smooth. Saw the branch to receive the scions, instead of splitting it.

Make two saw cuts about 4 inches deep at right angles to each other across the end of the stub, making a + shape. Then fit the scions into the four places made by these cuts.


The Side Graft

Although the side graft is adapted to a wide range of branch sizes (1/4 to 3/4 inch diameter), its use is generally restricted to branches that are too large for the whip graft yet not large enough for the cleft graft. As the name suggests, the scion is inserted into the side of the stock, which is generally larger in diameter than the scion.

Cuts – Select a smooth place on the understock branch at least a foot from the trunk. Make a slanting cut at a narrow angle almost to the pith (core of the branch). Cut the scion to a short, sharp wedge (about 1 inch) with one side thicker than the other.

Union – Bend the branch slightly to open the cut. Press the scion in so the cambium layers of the stock and scion meet at one side.

Tying and covering – Tying is unnecessary if the stock binds well, but you may have to tie small materials if the scion is not held firmly. Cut surfaces should then be covered with grafting compound.

Aftercare – In about two weeks, cut off the stock above the union using sharp shears in order to avoid disturbing the scion. Then cover the cut surface with grafting compound.

If the graft has been tied, cut the binding shortly after growth starts; this will prevent girdling. In the first season, you may allow some shoot growth from below the graft, but do not permit this growth to shade the scion growth. After the first season, all growth should be cut off, except that of the graft.

Inspect grafts during the growing season to guard against faulty covering or binding. If shoots are attacked by fire blight, cut them 6 inches below the visible symptoms.


Budding

Budding is a form of grafting in which a single bud is used as the scion rather than a section of stem. It is the most commonly used method for fruit tree production in the nursery, but can also be used for top-working plum, cherry, apricots, and peach as well as young apple and pear trees. (Cherry, plum, apricot, and peach are not easily cleft grafted or whip grafted.)

Budding is done in the summer, usually from July 15 to August 15, when the bark of the stock slips easily and when there are well-grown buds. The first step is to cut bud sticks of the desired cultivar from strong shoots of the present season's growth.
These buds should be mature, as indicated by a slightly brownish color.

Clip off the leaves as soon as the bud sticks are cut, leaving about 1/2 inch of the leafstalk for a handle. Discard the soft tips of the bud sticks. Wrap the bud sticks in moist burlap, moss or paper to prevent drying out.

Branches from the size of a lead pencil up to 1/2-inch diameter may be worked by this method. The bark of larger branches is too thick for satisfactory budding.

Cut – On the branches of the stock, about 15 inches or more from the trunk, make a T cut just across the bark. Then, with a knife blade or bark separator, lift the corners and carefully loosen the bark.

Bud with Wood Attached

Cut a bud from bud stick which includes a thin piece of attached wood. Start the bud under the flaps of bark and lead it down by the handle.

Tying – Use rubber strips, electrician's tape, or adhesive tape to tie the bud. Wrap and tie tightly, but be sure you do not cover the bud.

Aftercare – Cut the tie before it binds too tightly – that is, in two or three weeks. Cut on the side away from the bud. Rubber strips need not be cut. The bud should remain dormant until the following spring. Cut off the stock above the bud as soon as the bud starts growing.

Do not permit any shoot growth.

After the second year, remove all extra growth from the stock, that is, keep only the bud grafted shoots. When two or more buds grow, all can be used, but one is usually enough to produce a new branch.

Buds which have the sliver of wood removed have a complete cambium surface exposed to meet the cambium of the stock and sometimes result in better growth, but they are not rigid enough to handle easily. Buds with wood attached are easier to handle and usually give good results.

The Bridge Graft

When the bark of a tree is removed (girdled) completely around the trunk, that part of the tree above the damaged area will die. Even though completely girdled, some trees may leaf out and remain alive for one season, but both the top and root will die the second year unless shoots have been produced below the girdled areas.

Girdling can be caused by rodents, which damage many fruit trees each year. Occasionally a tree may only appear to be girdled if the gnawing has not gone through the bark to the wood. Sometimes the girdled area extends less than halfway around the trunk, and such injuries are protected from drying out, new bark will grow from the cambium. As soon as you discover an injury, cover it with an asphalt grafting compound.

Rabbit damage is usually some distance above the ground or snow line. These animals cut off twigs and pull off bark in shreds. Mice work near the ground out of sight under grass or snow. They usually begin at one spot and enlarge it. Pocket gophers gnaw off roots below the ground. Trees hurt in this way often tip over and cannot be repaired.

The following supplies are necessary to repair girdled trees:

A sharp knife, such as a good jackknife
Small nails for tacking scions to the tree
A light hammer
A nail set
A saw for trimming old thick bark
A shovel or trowel if damage is below the ground
A heavy scrub brush for cleaning excavated bark
Dormant or fresh cut scions for bridges
Asphalt grafting compound or asphalt wound dressing

Scion – Scions for apple trees may be taken from any hardy cultivar of apple or crab apple. Pear scions must be used for pear, plum for plums, and so on. Old trees rarely produce good scion wood unless they were pruned well the previous year. If 1-year old-wood is not available, 2-year wood may be used. If you can anticipate the need, you should cut the scions before any growth begins. Keep them in moist and cool storage. You may cut the scions, fresh as needed, if you bridge promptly before shoot growth begins.

Small Tree – Apple and pear trees under 2 inches in diameter are too small to bridge. The swaying of such small trunks by strong winds will dislodge the scions. If the tree is under 1 inch, it is best to saw it off just below the girdle, then cover the cut with asphalt wound dressing or grafting compound. Shoots of the same cultivar probably will grow out from above the place the tree originally had been grafted. Trees between 1 and 2 inches can best be treated by cutting or sawing them off below the injury in the spring and placing scions in the stubs by cleft grafting. Cherry and plum trees usually are not bridge grafted successfully. If they are only 2 or 3 years old, cut off below the injury and a new shoot will grow out from above the place where the tree originally had been grafted.

How To Bridge Graft – Bridge grafting is done in the spring after growth has started when the bark of the tree to be repaired will lift readily (slip) from the wood – usually between April 15 and May 15.

The first step is to trim the bark of the girdled trees both above and below the girdle. Cut back damaged or frayed bark an inch or so to sound bark. The edges should be clean and smooth. Scrape down old rough bark to live bark.

Two methods of setting scions are used: (1) the L-cut, best for trees with thin bark, and (2) inlay, for trees with thick bark.

To make the L-cut, start at the edge of live bark and cut a slit about 2 inches long in the bark below the girdle. Lift the edges with a dull smooth tool. Such a tool can readily be shaped from hardwood or a piece of plastic. The rat tail of a comb is good for this purpose.
Do not use the scion to lift the bark.

Prepare a second slit at the upper side of the girdle directly above the first.

Shape the scion on the lower end and measure against the girdle to determine the length of the scion. Shape the upper end of the scion to a definite taper with a longer flat surface next to the tree. Slip the ends under the bark, nail them in position and nail down the flaps of bark. In nailing either scion or bark, use care to avoid crushing the bark. A nail set will help to avoid injury to the bark.

The inlay method is the best bridge grafting technique. In fact, it is a necessity for a short span. Select a curved scion to make an inlay bridge. Measure the distance to be spanned and make the scion long enough to extend 1 1/2 to 2 inches beyond the girdle at each end. Cut a straight, smooth face on each end.

Place a nail in each end. Tack this lightly to the tree bark to mark the place. Mark around each end on the bark to get the exact size of the scion. Remove the scion, cut to the wood on the marks, and lift out the piece of bark. Then fit the scion in the channels in the bark and nail carefully. One nail is usually enough.

In either grafting method, place a scion every 1 1/2 to 2 inches around the tree.

Covering and care – When all the scions are in place, the graft unions should be covered with grafting compound. Note that the entire girdled surface should be covered and more than one coat may be necessary.
In bridge grafting, after the scions begin to grow, it is important that all shoots or leafy growth be cut or rubbed off the scions.

How to protect the graft:
Immediately after completion of the graft the scions should be protected from drying out. Use a grafting compound on the graft unions and other cut surfaces.

Some reasons why a graft fails:

The scion and stock were incompatible; apple will not unite with plum, for example.
The grafting was done in the wrong season.
The understock was not healthy.
The scions were not vigorous.
The scions were dry or injured by cold temperatures
The scions were not dormant.
The cambium of scion and stock were not meeting properly.
The scions were upside down.
The graft was improperly covered with grafting compound.
The scions were displaced by wind, birds or storms.
The graft was shaded too much after growth began.
New growth was damaged by aphids or other insects.
New growth was killed by fire blight.
The union girdled because the bindings or label were not released in time.

What if grafts fail?

One hundred percent success in grafting is rare.
The failure of one or two scions is not serious, since usually more scions are inserted than are necessary for the completed tree.
On branches where the scions fail let the shoots grow.
These can be budded the same summer or grafted later.
Some shoot growth is needed for regrafting, but don't let them become so dense that they crowd the scions.


And there you have it, a complete reference to grafting. I apologize for the lack of pictures, I have no way currently to include them, when I do I will post them under this heading.
 
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Great post, Bryant.
I just found it now.
I use many grafting techniques and have for years.
Paul is morally opposed to grafting.
I have discussed it with him many times. His land area and mine are very different, so the application is different, and we also just disagree.
Great information!
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Thanks for this Bryant.
I have some difficulties applying some of your techniques because the materials and tree types are different over here in Europe .
I cannot find an Asphalt type grafting material I can only find beeswax/ turpintine stuff that is apita as its so sticky
Secondly I have a grafting tool similar to the one used in the Permactulture Orchard DVD . What do you think of them ?
I dont see from your notes that you differentiate between Cleft grafting and t bud grafting .
What mthod would you use for Walnuts .
John I think grafting is essential when your funds or space are limited .

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T bud grafting just uses a tiny bud that is inserted into the sliced bark of the tree.

In cleft grafting a branch is cut, and two sticks (or scion as it is usually called) are put into the sides of the flat cut branch.

They are usually done at different times of year as Bryant explains. Cleft grafting in Spring, bud grafting in summer, depending on your climate.

I agree, David, and I think that Paul sort of understands, that with limited space, time, and money, grafting is essential.

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David Livingston wrote:Thanks for this Bryant.
I have some difficulties applying some of your techniques because the materials and tree types are different over here in Europe .
I cannot find an Asphalt type grafting material I can only find beeswax/ turpintine stuff that is apita as its so sticky
Secondly I have a grafting tool similar to the one used in the Permactulture Orchard DVD . What do you think of them ?
I dont see from your notes that you differentiate between Cleft grafting and t bud grafting .
What mthod would you use for Walnuts .
John I think grafting is essential when your funds or space are limited .

David



I don't use the asphalt products, I use good old Elmer's white glue, it does the job and will erode in about a year.
I like bees wax but instead of turpentine try to get some pure bees wax and blend it with olive oil or lemon oil, just enough to get it to smear but still get hard as it cools.
Those grafting tools are really good in my opinion, I don't use them simply because I've always used a knife and an very good at it now. The tools make grafting much easier and help shorten the learning curve which is why they were invented.
Walnuts can be grafted either way, usually I will cleft graft if I can get a good scion, otherwise I will bud graft. Most fruit trees I cleft graft unless I am building something like an apple tree that will bear 4 or 5 different varieties, then I bud graft.

Grafts are great for creating or for making sure the root system is disease resistant or more drought tolerant.
IF you have the space and weather then grafting would be more for creating a multi variety tree or to get a better root system.
 
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So far I have had best results using what they call here a rind graft plum on plum or medlar onto Hawthorne
Hoping to try bud grafting come end of July
 
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Excellent. I'm also a grafting enthusiast. Since I start a lot of trees from seed and allow a lot of bird-planted wild fruit to grow in my food forest projects, being able to graft allows me to keep stacking more and more abundance into the space. The tap root of those seed-grown trees is a wonderful thing.
 
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David Livingston wrote:So far I have had best results using what they call here a rind graft plum on plum or medlar onto Hawthorne
Hoping to try bud grafting come end of July



I had luck with whip and tongue grafting "sand" pears onto hawthorn trees in Central Florida. The pears would have hated the harsh scrubland conditions but they seemed to take fine on the scrappy hawthorn species growing on the rolling white sands.
 
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I get pear trees for free. Every time I have to prune my quince tree, I put some of the branches into the ground. They grow into small trees and I graft certain pears onto them the next year. Also birds give me hawthorns, and I graft pears onto them, as I already have enough hawthorns for me to eat, which I also grafted.

Trees don't develop tap roots because they are seed grown. Certain trees naturally create tap roots whether they are transplanted or not, like walnuts, paw paws, and madrones. Many of these trees don't transplant well and will more frequently die if you try to transplant large adult trees. Other trees don't develop tap roots either way, although some trees may have more extensive or more developed root systems at first if they are never transplanted.
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John Saltveit wrote:I get pear trees for free. Every time I have to prune my quince tree, I put some of the branches into the ground. They grow into small trees and I graft certain pears onto them the next year. Also birds give me hawthorns, and I graft pears onto them, as I already have enough hawthorns for me to eat, which I also grafted.



This goes for branches off of common Old Home rootstocks as well - stick them in the ground and the following Spring, many will be ready to graft..
 
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I know these posts have aged but maybe someone will see my question...when it come to a T bud graft....Can you slice a bud off a branch without removing the branch from the tree?   In the picture I have drawn circles around some of the buds I may use for the graft...do they look like what I would use?  As you can tell I'm new at this...have had some success doing whip and tongue grafting.   Thanks, Bill
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Are any of these what I can use for the graft?
Are any of these what I can use for the graft?
 
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Those look like good choices. New growth.  You can't save the leaf, but you can save the branch if you do it carefully.
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Thanks, John...I also posted this in a new thread.  Just to see if I get any other opinions.  Once I sliced the bud off, should I wrap the "injury" with paraffin tape...or would it heal better on its own.
 
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It heals on its own. Just bud graft it quickly.
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So once the T-bud graft is completed, what aftercare is required?  Should I keep it out of the sun?  Or should it be set out in a protected area?   Should I avoid having it in the rain?  Outside but covered?  And is there any way I can tell before spring if it's been successful?   Thanks, Bill
 
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Hi Bryant,
I was told that grafting is most successful on a rootstock that is well established. I'm going to be grafting onto young pacific crabapple seedlings, because they tolerate wet soils very well like mine. I'm hoping to plant the seedlings this spring and graft onto them next year. What time of year and grafting method would you recommend?
 
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Bill,
You could keep it watered for a few days.  It is better if you can bud graft it on the North side of the tree, but that is already done.
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How 'bout this question?  In the picture attached I've marked where the graft was made.  How close to the graft should I plant the tree?   Does it have to be at the ground line or can I bury the rootstock "trunk" deeper into the ground?   Thanks, Bill  
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Keep the graft well above the soil line, say 5-6 inches. If the graft is in the soil, the scion (upper tree selected) may send down roots and you could have an enormous tree, missing the point of grafting. "I grafted that rootstock so my tree would be 12' tall, but now it sent down roots and it is 50' tall."
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I have some pear trees that have sprouts coming from the root stock.  Can I cut those off and stick them in the ground and expect them to sprout?  If so, what season should I do that in zone 6?  

Also, should I buy root stock in the fall or in the spring?  Again, I'm in zone 6.

Finally, is there a good DVD on fruit tree grafting???
 
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You need to know what the rootstock was. If it was quince, they should grow from cuttings. Not 100%, but more than 50% probably.  If it was OH x F, you will need to make sure that the sprout has some roots attached.  Then it should grow into a new tree.
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Thanks!

I looked it up and the company that I bought them from uses seedlings for it's pear rootstock, not quince, which I suspect is because fire blight is prevalent in my area.  I know that I could sprout roots from this, but I really like the sound of the OHxF 97 rootstock.  Would it be good to buy rootstock now or in the spring?
 
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How cold is your area? They are tiny trees and could die in a cold winter.  Alternatively, they may be sold out in the spring.  So, that's your risk/ratio.
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I'm in zone 6a, so -10 - -5 (F) (which is -23.3 - 20.6 (c) if you aren't in the USA).  I have hoop houses that I could put them in, either in ground or in pots.  What's the recommendation?
 
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If it were me, I'd probably buy them in the spring, plant them in movable pots and try to protect them during extreme cold spells.
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Thank you SO much for this wealth of information!

I’m going to be trying to graft a few branches of Wnglish walnut.

I very much hope your advice will make this successful!
 
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Grafting to Cherry Suckers

... I call them cherry tree volunteers.

I want to try grafting a cutting from the red-gold cherry tree a friend (James Landreth, thanks James!) gave me a few years ago, onto the little cherry tree volunteers from roots. (suckers as root stock).  When and how is best?

I want to prune the new tree shorter in the fall or spring and wonder if the top tall branch could be pruned off (to keep it shorter and fuller) and used to graft onto a volunteer? Your thoughts?

I have new little cherry "trees" from the roots of older parent trees. They do not grow very straight, kind of curvy like roots. One parent tree died and has a little tree from the roots still living in my garden. There are many around the still alive parent/older cherry tree that fails to hold fruit for all these years (probably because its surrounded by forest on all but the drive way side facing west). I have not seen any flowers on these little trees growing around my older nursery-purchased cherry trees from about 10 years ago.

Can I graft some of the new tree onto these? When, in August  or spring? Shall I use a method in this Russian video? this is the only video I found on YT about grafting to cherry suckers.  
  Note my cherry volunteers are taller, been around for years.

 
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Bud grafting would work now-either chip budding or T budding.  If the graft takes, you could move the tree in November to where it would be healthiest.
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I'm running out of room on my property and am starting to look at grafting as a way to get more variety. I have never done it, but I want to give it a try!

I have a mature and very healthy pear tree. I don't know the variety, it was here when we bought the house. I HATE it. I want to see what I can graft to it. Since I have two other pear trees that I like, I don't really want more european pears. I was thinking to try asian pears, medlar, hawthorn, and/or shipova. I don't know if those are all doable. I see lots of info of grafting pear onto hawthorn for example, but not the other way around...

I also have a maturing cherry tree. It is healthy and vigorous, but I want to plant romance series bush cherries for easier harvest since they are so short... and honestly, you only need so many cherries. I was thinking of trying to turn it into a stone fruit multigraft and seeing what I could get to grow on it.

Other than that I don't have any ambitious projects planned. I might like to get a multigraft apple and keep adding more varieties to it. Or add a branch of a different variety to a fruit tree here or there to help with pollination.
 
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Sounds awesome Kalin. I have yet to delve into grafting yet and want to start (see post before yours). Lets keep each other posted. I hope to find my camera (no smart phone) and share some photos. Check out the Russian man on the YT video I shared (cherry) and he also has a video grafting pear to apple this year. Course you do not need to do that if you already have pear root stock. But its an interestign experiment. He says the growth on the pear is developing well so far.
 
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Hey, got problem with grafting an old variety of cherry that I want to save from disappearing because she's slowly dieing. I can't find any acceptable branches whether I'm trying spring or summer grafting. The problem is that when the vegetation start to be more active, buds immediately develop a short extension branch (cca 1cm) out of which dozen of new flower and leaf buds grow up resulting a heavy load for the graft. I've never had a problem like this with other varieties of cherries, because all of them had "normal" scion material, few singular buds and appropriate diameter. I would be grateful for some advice.
 
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I don't know about the cherry that you are grafting it on. You could graft it onto another cherry tree seedling. I would try to make sure it's the same kind of cherry species.  Sweet cherry to sweet cherry, pie cherry to pie cherry, etc.
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i would try either removing as much of that extra weight from the new growth (all flowerbuds, maybe more) as possible, or is there a way to splint the graft so the extra weight isn’t pulling on the graft itself? i often splint walnut or mulberry grafts because they grow a lot before the graft itself is ready to support them, so they can blow out in a wind. with cherries, it wouldn’t take too much.
 
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Anyone had any success grafting anything on to a asian pear stock?

My asian pear tree never gave any fruit and its over 6yo, I am ready to give up, unless I can graft something into the stock. Any suggestions of what it can work?
 
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I bought a nectarine tree but the trunk is 6ft tall with foliage taller than that,

Is it possible to either cut a section out the middle and graft the tree to itself

Or

Graft the branches to a lower point on the trunk?
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Hi Mike,

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Hi, new here. Would be eternally grateful for help I have a ginko tree i planted from seed my grandfather brought back from japan about 40 years ago as a child. The tree is on family property and will remain there as long as i fight for it to stay ( family isnt plant minded) and it appears i will not inherit the property and moving the tree is out of the question. How do i graft a new tree to take with me in case they do something stupid like cut it down. Please help.
 
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hi kezia, the way i see it you have 2 options. ginkgo does pretty well via cuttings, so you could prepare a rooted cutting and have a copy of your tree, down to the roots. this would not require actual grafting. alternatively, you could grow a few seedlings (either offspring of your tree if it’s female, or seed from some other tree if not) and graft material from your tree onto them at an appropriate size.
 
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