• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Anne Miller
  • Nicole Alderman
  • Pearl Sutton
  • r ranson
stewards:
  • paul wheaton
  • Mike Haasl
  • Burra Maluca
master gardeners:
  • Greg Martin
  • jordan barton
  • Carla Burke
  • Leigh Tate
gardeners:
  • Jay Angler
  • John F Dean
  • Steve Thorn

Liquid Gold Fertility Bank

 
Posts: 10
1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hi Permies,

I have a couple of questions for y'all, which have emerged from my latest project.
I've set up a urine collection and distribution system in a community, where 40 residents "deposit" their urine jars into a common barrel, and "collect" urine for their personal gardens when needed. When the 55 gallon barrel is 1/8 full, it is filled with water to dilute the urine and it's used for fertilizing the community crops. The link below shows pictures of the system and an example of irrigation.

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B035qXGF1O4qxe

My questions are these:

1) Come winter, there are not enough crops to irrigate for the large volume of urine produced, so I'm thinking of setting up a dedicated compost heap. The site produces sawmill dust from the forestry, and has access to cheap straw. What ratio of straw or sawdust to urine would be idea, and what tips might you have to set up the urine compost heap? One thing I'm particularly concerned about is leaching into the soil. How can I contain any leaching?

2) A gravity-powered method for irrigating is proving slow and laborious. What might be an electric or manual pump system that could be implemented simply and inexpensively?

Thank you
Fertility-Exchange-1.jpg
[Thumbnail for Fertility-Exchange-1.jpg]
Fertility-Exchange-2.jpg
[Thumbnail for Fertility-Exchange-2.jpg]
 
Posts: 318
9
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Simple sometimes depends on the person involved. I repair water pumps as part of my living so getting a working electric house pump for me normally involves a bit of time with a cast off. If someone in your group or circle has the right skill set and multiple donor pumps are available that would probably be a cheap simple route. A bit of observation and tweaking of amounts should take care of any potential leachate problems.
 
Robert Chroscicki
Posts: 10
1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I'm afraid I don't know what a donor pump is, and my circle of friends doesn't either; this probably gives you a scale of my knowledge, which might be reason enough to go manual?

Perhaps a Rotary Barrel Pump? Any advice on picking the right one? Perhaps the one below, for water-based substances?

http://www.amazon.com/TERAPUMP-TRRP90P-solutions-petroleum-products/dp/B006984YEU/ref=pd_sim_263_7?ie=UTF8&refRID=1AWKREQN81HKAYDZ88KR
 
Wyatt Barnes
Posts: 318
9
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Too bad you aren't close to me Robert. A donor pump is a parts pump, one that has some usable parts on it. Take a donor with a bad motor, another that was frozen and put them together to make one usable pump. The barrel pump looks fine for transferring but I suspect it wouldn't be suitable for irrigation.
 
gardener
Posts: 3486
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio,Price Hill 45205
451
forest garden trees urban
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
A basic sump pump on a switch should work . A condensate pump might even work. I would haunt ReStore ( habitat for humanity) stores for a used one.
 
It runs on an internal combustion engine. This ad does not:
Food Forest Card Game - Game Forum
https://permies.com/t/61704/Food-Forest-Card-Game-Game
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic