John Elliott wrote:Officially, most counties are going to have building departments that issue permits. Even in places with small counties (<5000 population), they may not have staff to do it, but rely on a neighboring, more populous county to do the permit review.
In my experience, out west (California and Nevada) is building permit hell. If you don't believe me, go look up the code requirements for mailboxes in some California cities. If they are going to come out with a tape measure to make sure your mailbox is up to code, not too low and not too high, you can imagine what else they will hassle you about (everything).
On the other hand, in the South (SC and GA), there is so much anti-gubmint feeling, that building departments are very circumspect. When I went to build a garage, they told me that the permit and inspection process was optional, since it was not intended to be an inhabited structure. When they came and inspected the framing, the inspector suggested that it would be a good idea to add some hurricane clips to join the trusses to the stud walls. Again, just a suggestion, not a code requirement that had to be done before I could proceed.
If you are looking for a place where the building department will be reasonable and helpful with your outside-of-the-box ideas, try the southern states.
I am wondering if there is a website that shows counties or areas of land in which do not have zoning laws and do not require building permits?
I would rather not have to contact each and every county for which property I may be interested in.
I am looking to purchase 1-5 acres to build an earth bag home on. I am open to any state. If you don't know of a website it would be greatly appreciated if you could tell me of a county or area that you know of. Thanks a bunch
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Unorganized townships come with low tax bills. However they may still be responsible for Board of Education taxes, Local Service Board taxes and Local Roads Board taxes if the unincorporated township is within the jurisdiction of these boards.
What buying property in an unorganized township gives you is the freedom to build and renovate on your property without building permits. If you are looking for a built turnkey home or cottage, unorganized townships will not bring much additional value as the building has already been completed. If you are looking to buy an existing structure in an unorganized township, make sure to get a through home inspection to ensure that it is built to code.
Heather Beech wrote:There are counties in Missouri that do not require permits to build. My husband and I are looking into Douglas County, MO. My husband has worked construction his whole life so the thought of not building to code makes him a little nervous, but he is happy not to have to pay for permits and deal with inspectors
Kymberli Mundwiller wrote:Do you know if Phelps or Crawford are like this? I find anything. The realtor says it's prob because they don't have out of city codes and permits aren't necessary. There *have* been plenty of permits paid for, even just Phelps County.
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FIPS | County | Energy Building Code | Residential Code | Commercial Code |
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19 | Boone County | - | 2009 IRC | 2009 IBC |
31 | Cape Girardeau County | 2009 IECC | - | 2009 IBC |
37 | Cass County | - | 2006 IRC | 2006 IBC |
43 | Christian County | 2006 IECC | 2006 IRC | 2006 IBC |
51 | Cole County | - | 2000 IRC | 2000 IBC |
95 | Jackson County | 2009 IECC | 2009 IRC | 2009 IBC |
99 | Jefferson County | 2003 IECC | 2003 IRC | 2003 IBC |
165 | Platte County | 2012 IECC | 2012 IRC | 2012 IBC |
510 | St. Louis City | 2009 IECC | 2009 IRC | 2009 IBC |
183 | St. Charles County | - | 2009 IRC | 2009 IBC |
189 | St. Louis County | 2009 IECC | 2009 IRC | 2009 IBC |
77 | Greene County | - | 2012 IRC | 2012 IBC |
47 | Clay County | 2012 IECC | 2012 IRC | 2012 IBC |
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Tom Harner wrote:Here is a list of Missouri counties that are allowed to have building codes based on state law:
FIPS County Energy Building Code Residential Code Commercial Code 19 Boone County - 2009 IRC 2009 IBC 31 Cape Girardeau County 2009 IECC - 2009 IBC 37 Cass County - 2006 IRC 2006 IBC 43 Christian County 2006 IECC 2006 IRC 2006 IBC 51 Cole County - 2000 IRC 2000 IBC 95 Jackson County 2009 IECC 2009 IRC 2009 IBC 99 Jefferson County 2003 IECC 2003 IRC 2003 IBC 165 Platte County 2012 IECC 2012 IRC 2012 IBC 510 St. Louis City 2009 IECC 2009 IRC 2009 IBC 183 St. Charles County - 2009 IRC 2009 IBC 189 St. Louis County 2009 IECC 2009 IRC 2009 IBC 77 Greene County - 2012 IRC 2012 IBC 47 Clay County 2012 IECC 2012 IRC 2012 IBC
Source: https://data.mo.gov/Economic-Development/County-Building-Codes-for-Missouri/iq7s-izvt
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No website that I know of but I'm going to throw out a third vote for Missouri. Virtually all of the counties that are not urban have no zoning or code enforcement. The only thing the rural counties regulate is septic, satisfy them on that issue and build what you want.
Bryan de Valdivia wrote:
Tom Harner wrote:Here is a list of Missouri counties that are allowed to have building codes based on state law:
FIPS County Energy Building Code Residential Code Commercial Code 19 Boone County - 2009 IRC 2009 IBC 31 Cape Girardeau County 2009 IECC - 2009 IBC 37 Cass County - 2006 IRC 2006 IBC 43 Christian County 2006 IECC 2006 IRC 2006 IBC 51 Cole County - 2000 IRC 2000 IBC 95 Jackson County 2009 IECC 2009 IRC 2009 IBC 99 Jefferson County 2003 IECC 2003 IRC 2003 IBC 165 Platte County 2012 IECC 2012 IRC 2012 IBC 510 St. Louis City 2009 IECC 2009 IRC 2009 IBC 183 St. Charles County - 2009 IRC 2009 IBC 189 St. Louis County 2009 IECC 2009 IRC 2009 IBC 77 Greene County - 2012 IRC 2012 IBC 47 Clay County 2012 IECC 2012 IRC 2012 IBC
Source: https://data.mo.gov/Economic-Development/County-Building-Codes-for-Missouri/iq7s-izvt
Tom, what are the implications of your table? don't know how it fits.
We've got a spread in Missouri, would like to know what would be possible.
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Kelly Smith wrote:hopefully this will help.
this is a map that was on the earthship website for a while. (they have an interactive map now)
larger image here: http://earthship.com/pockets-of-freedome-map-old
or google search "earthship pockets of freedom map"
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