elle sagenev wrote:Anyway, the question is, how would you protect your property from fire in a permaculture way?
elle sagenev wrote:Our land is quite settled. I suppose the good thing is that our driveway is on the wind side of our house. So there is that for fire protection. I think we were wondering if there was a way to protect the whole property. Like a road or moat or something clear around. Plus if we got a moat I'd probably become quite fabulous, or insane, it's up in the air.
elle sagenev wrote:I laughed at pines and such being a bad tree choice. It's the main one for tree lines around these parts and ours is 4 lines deep in pines. Bugger it all!
Alder Burns wrote:I think that statistically, more structures are lost to ember fallout and wind-driven embers than to the actual direct spread of flames.
Dale Hodgins wrote:A roof covered in soil, could prevent much of the damage that occur each year. Adobe houses present very few opportunities for fire to damage them.
Dale Hodgins wrote:Areas overrun with sage brush are particularly flammable.
Alder Burns wrote:I can see the point about evacuating from a regional fire, where there is advance warning, but my main danger here is from the road not far from the house. A fire from that sector (a cigarette butt, a trailer chain dragging sparks, etc.) will be up the bank and in our front yard in a heartbeat.....way faster than the fire department can get here and perhaps even faster than we could get the car out. So the main gardens and the fruit trees are out there, and the woodchip pile and wood shed even further out, sprinklers on the roof, and a generator...
Will Meginley wrote:
First, a question. Do you need to defend the whole property, or just the buildings and gardens? What type of fuels do you have? (short grass, tall grass, brush, forest? How much dead, woody material is lying around?)
Depending on the fuels, a simple dirt foot path 18 - 36 inches wide might be sufficient to stop a ground fire. Wind-blown embers won't even waste the time to laugh at that, which is where irrigating the zone immediately around the home, "yard hygiene," and building materials come into play.
elle sagenev wrote:
Eventually I would like the whole property protected. I am in the process of planting a U-pick and if those trees burn part of my heart will burn with them, plus years of my life.
elle sagenev wrote:The house is obviously the biggest priority. It's cement siding and a metal roof so it should be fairly ok at suppressing flames. I wouldn't count on it not lighting up but it's as good as it's likely to get. The acres around us are my biggest concern. I can't water them all and I don't. Too many and I don't have the water rights.
elle sagenev wrote:I suppose the good thing about my area is there is a huge lack of trees. It's mostly tree lines around houses, and my orchard, of course. Other than that it's wheat fields and dead grass.
Raven Sutherland wrote:cistern basics: 101 for fire supression
top of the hill with inline pump and fire hose
how big? gallons... to do the job?
it's on my list to do !
plastic liner real thick sold in calif.
cement block surrounded