i don't suggest anyone break any law........ but, if a person was too, the should do it out of sight, and as fast as possible (most inspectors don't work holidays or weekends so a Monday holiday, with starting on a Friday after 5 or so is best) neighbors are the biggest issue, and yes you typically have to show exact blue-prints/plans etc and several rounds of inspections when you apply for a permit, plus there is then a city record of your build-
The main purpose for the permit application is to queue the property up for a 'tax value' evaluation for the county assessor.
I'd apply for a permit to build a lean-to livestock shelter, and then make sure whatever I built looked somewhat like that to a casual observer. The assessor will spend 10 or 20 minutes 'assessing the value' of the improvement, your property tax statement will reflect that, and no one will be the wiser.
Many Tax Assessors and Code enforcement types I know will also use google earth to look at the area they preside over and upon noticing something they haven't seen before or are just curious about will then pay you a visit and find out whats going on. So be ready with a plausible explanation that doesn't involve inspection.
The county I live in here in Southern Oregon has lots of "illegal" houses. It seems like a lot of folks figure that if it's out of sight from the neighbors and the land agents then they just do what they want. There are lots of great natural, artistic houses around here!
Jami McBride wrote:
I am assuming that you feel a cabin would be to much for you to take on (cabin = 600 sf, no electric, no plumbing, just an outhouse). A cabin permit only affords you seasonal living, but I would think you could get around this by being shrewd. Building out of line of sight, in the trees and behind a gate at the road.
hmm I thought that the problem was that he HAD to build a structure of at least 600 sq ft to live in before any other buildings..the ones he really wants to have there.. were permitted? If so, that suggests that somehow trying to hide the building entirely won't do the job. It sounds to me as though going the cabin route is the best bet since that would seem to provide the least fodder for the house inspector to chew on..
Pompous inspectors full of their own importance can be a pain in the behind but rational ones can be useful in trying to prevent people from killing themselves with weird wiring that shorts out and causes a fire or roofs that collapse after the first snow. Some of the stuff (photos) I have seen on the internet in the name of fixing things is truly scary, and novice homebuilders may not be aware of some of the stresses their home may be asked to deal with. Not all inspectors are S.O.B.s just waiting to give people a hard time. many are simply trying to make sure the building is safe.
Lolly K wrote:
Can you start with a purchased semi trailer? In many parts of the country they are
To an extreme, maybe I could build the first "Simple?" house, and then, after building what else I wanted, say, "Oops, it fell down! I have to now build another!" - or what I wanted to build in the first place - also means a lot of extra time, work and expense, but in the end, might be the best that I can do.
? "developed water source" - is there a "developed water source" other than a well Huh
I'd like to be able to get away with a big water tank or reservoir...
As far as the properties with just barns and such, I have been told that most or all of them were 'Grandfathered' or older constructions, and that the code has been updated since they came to be - if that is wrong, I sure would like to know.
Re: Electric/Utilities - that would be solar, windmil, and hopefully Biogas digester natural gas, possibly supplimented with collected fryolator oil (Except that there may be soime local biodiesel outfit monopolizing the market on that) - Resources in that regard are not a problem. I might also get a propane tank, just to keep the bureaucrats happy. Lighting would be pretty much exclusively LED and sola tube kinda stuff.
Re: Road with fire truck turn-around? That's required? - Not really a problem, but I guess I have not yet studied that far into the codes - more info on that would be great.
It's zoned as rural residential, one home - whatever that is. I have not bought the property yet, I am doing all the planning first and looking for just the right lot.
Good idea on the storage shed, but I need something that vadals and thieves cannot break into - which means good old concrete.
I have checked into straw bale, and am not convinced of its long term viability.
Organic matter breaks down after a time, period. You also cannot guarantee that you would not be importing little crawlies into your walls that could cause problems eventually.
Straw bale would also cost more than what I have planned, and drastically affect the size of the walls, design, and floor space. You pay property taxes partially based on the square footage of your home, and I have better things to do with the space of bales then to just have a really fat walls
I also checked into treating straw bales with some kind of cement or clay or something cheap that I could douse them in to seal and preserve them, but the experts say that anything involving water would likely trigger decomposition.