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Elizabeth Smith
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Hello! As my family prepares to move off grid and much more remote in a couple months (something we can all celebrate!) I am starting to build my DIY staples for house cleaning and beauty supplies. I only want to stock things that can be used in lots of different ways and have as little redundancy as possibly. For example, I see lots of recipes that use shea butter and mango butter. Do I really need both? I know there are lots of threads with recipes, but I'm looking to consolidate.

Things my family will need:
Home
-Dish soap
-Laundry soap
-Spot stain remover
-multipurpose cleaner

Personal care
-Lotion
-Shampoo
-Tooth paste

Here is my pantry staples list so far:
Baking soda
Vinegar
Cocconut oil

Bonus*****anyone have suggestions for replacing these with things that I can actually produce on our north western homestead?
 
Todd Parr
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Dr Bronner's magic soap will replace all the items under your "Home" section with one product, although I would use two, Sal Suds and one of the pure Castile soaps. A few drops is all you need for a load of dishes, showering, whatever. Absolutely love Dr Bronner's.
 
Elizabeth Smith
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Nice! Have you used Bronner's in your laundry? Does it work well with cold water? We will have a grey water system, so is this soap ok to spill directly onto our soil?
 
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I haven't used it in my laundry yet, although it is supposed to work well for that. It is also supposed to biodegrade rapidly, but I don't have any way of knowing that and my grey water system isn't installed yet, so I can't be sure of it. I can tell you that I use it for all my household cleaning jobs, from dishes to chicken waterers to whatever, and it works great with really tiny amounts.
 
Shaz Jameson
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thread bump. I know Dr. Bronner's is awesome and all, but here in Europe it's notoriously difficult to source.
Any alternatives?

I've been storing citrus peels in jar and topped with vinegar, which I use with a few drops of essential oil as a pretty much all purpose cleaner when diluted with water. I've heard a lot about soap nuts, but also not sure where to source. Curious to hear any other responses.
 
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I can get soap nuts here in France and in the UK .
Have you tried Black soap ? It's a natural product made in France - Savon noire ?
 
Olga Booker
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Shaz, I had never heard of Dr Bronner, I just looked it up on the internet, sounds great. I use Alep (Aleppo) soap or Marseille soap which are very common in France and maybe it could be found in other European countries (don't know where you are in Europe).

I use it to wash myself and wash my hair. My husband uses it for shaving. I grate it and use it as laundry soap, rub it on a stain and scrub the stain before washing, and it works well in cold water. I then use vinegar to rinse (hair and clothes).

You can google Aleppo soap, it is quite interesting - sorry, I haven't quite mastered the art of inserting a link!

Elizabeth, as well as the above, I make a tooth powder with Bi-carb and dried spearmint, I powder the mint very finely in a pestle and mortar and mix. Sometimes, I vary the herbs, fennel or sage are quite good too. I don't use coconut oil, but walnut, olive and sunflower cold pressed oils are all local to us. My friend makes lavender water so I use that sometimes as a lotion (when she's kind enough to spare a bottle!). By the way, Bi-carb is good in laundry too.

 
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You are already 90% there. The last 10% depends on your specific needs. Ideas to think about:

Borax. Pest management, laundry and dish soap booster.
Salt. Scrubbing agent, stain remover.
Essential oils. Lots of power in tiny little bottles.
Books. Knowledge is power.
Vodka. Disinfectant and tincture solution
 
Shaz Jameson
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Savon noire, savon d'aleppe en savon de marseille are all awesome alterantives - and I recognize them! So I'll find them! Thanks for the suggestionss everybody, apologies for my late reply.
 
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Elizabeth, I have a thought about the replacement of coconut oil. If you will be butchering animals you will have the ability to make lard and tallow. There are also nut and seed presses like the Piteba that will allow you to get oil from what you may be growing.

Personally, I have only rendered my own tallow which I made into a skin balm, but the oil pressure is on my wish list.
 
Elizabeth Smith
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Thanks so much everyone for the suggestions so far! I went and got some Bronners and tried using that for personal care/laundry/dish soap. With my current 'city' water it worked great on dishes, ok with personal care and meh on laundry. I think I just need to remember that there will be a different standard for clean laundry off grid! Someone posted about borax for a laundry booster and as long as it's ok in grey water and not toxic I'll give it a go and see what happens.

David, I have tried black soap for shampoo and I liked it, but I'd rather find a product that does more than just shampoo....unless you know something I don't!

Ghislaine de Lessines, I love the suggestion about tallow! I went to a butcher and bought some suet so I could try making it, and it was super easy and I've really enjoyed cooking with it because the smoke point seems to be really high. I tried it as lotion and it technically worked really well, but it still has a slight meaty smell which I'm sure I could cover up with essential oils, but I prefer things to be unscented. Any suggestions?

I also started researching the pidbea, and I'm very interested.
 
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I used lavender essential oil and 10% olive oil to make it a little softer as a balm. I'm not sure what it would take to get rid of the slight smell.
 
Larisa Walk
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We use Dr. Bronners Sal Suds for laundry (rainwater cistern, cold wash, graywater drainfield), dishes, and general cleaning. Dr. Bronners bar soaps for shampoo (with vinegar rinse). Dr. Bronners liquid soap for handwashing. We've been using their products for over 40 years and wouldn't buy anything else here in the U.S. As for homemade stuff, we make a tooth powder of calcium citrate, baking soda, and cinnamon (ratio is 6:2:1) with toothbrush dipped in coconut oil or water first (sometimes put a drop of tea tree oil on brush too). A bottle of Citra Solve will clean all kinds of greasy or nasty stuff and lasts about forever (several years for us). Hydrogen peroxide is another staple we keep on hand as it's good for all kinds of things.
 
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You do not need shampoo at all - use as hot water as you can comfortably stand, and then rise with some good for hair strong herbal infusion. I started doing that a few months ago, and my hair looks better than with shampoo, and bonus is, that my scalp doesn't itch for several days after washing my hair. First time your hair might be a bit oilier, but it adjusts very quickly. It is actually much healthier for our hair not to try to make up with oils, because of our harsh treatment. Soap is harsh, even if it is natural. Also do not soap your whole body daily since it takes 48 hours for us to absorb vit D our skin makes. I soap just parts that sweat a lot. Bar soap is really easy to make, I make ours once  year. It is possible to make liquid soap (your own dr. bronners!), but it takes a bit more playing around. If you have lots of space, maybe you could experiment with soapy plants such as soapwort?
Toothpaste is also not needed since from my experience it never cleans teeth properly -store bought or natural clay one (I used to make one from bentonite clay, water, and peppermint essential oil). Use teeth cleaning sticks. I use licorice root ones I bought, but you can plant your own or use willow branches (nicest texture) or other nontoxic tree branch, that is about a pencil diameter. Just soak the end for a few minutes, peel off the bark a bit, and chew to soften it, then brush gently. You will be surprised, how clean your teeth will be. I also do oil pulling once a day -coconut oil, a bit of baking soda and a bit of turmeric powder. You could use any oil -grow sunflower seeds and squeeze them out?
  My laundry soap is made from washing soda, liquid soap, baking soda and water. You can make your own washing soda from baking soda baked in 400 degrees over for about an hour. You will see, when it will become washing soda, texture will change - it will form balls easily instead of being soft powder.
  You didn't ask for these, but zinc oxide powder makes perfect sunlotion, diaper rash, or deodorant, if added to coconut oil or jojoba oil. Milk of magnesia by itself is very effective deodorant as well.
  I would include herbal medicines as your staples as well -make sure you have ready made stuff from pain, inflammation, herbal antivirals and antibacterials, some clay to pull out splinters, infections, insect sting or animal bite poison or bacteria, also activated charcoal powder for food poisoning, diahrrhea, etc.
 
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