Man is an active part of a permaculture system, right? As I see it, if man is taken out of the scenario, then it's not permaculture anymore. It's reduced to a wildlife scenario.
Su Ba wrote:How do you define a closed system or closed loop? Must all inputs come from the physical boundaries of the farm itself, or would regionally produced resources be acceptable?
nancy sutton wrote:Oh... and don't forget Black Soldier Flies! ;)
Gilbert Fritz wrote:
1. As a permie, I don't think shipping food from one country to another will continue indefinitely. As a realist, I don't think all the arable land on earth will be divided up into nice little plots, one per person, with the population even spread over the globe. Therefore, it is not particularly relevant to my situation if the people in India don't have enough land per person to eat meat
Gilbert Fritz wrote:No, but all permaculture is local.
Gilbert Fritz wrote:Sorry, all permaculture DESIGN is local, I should have said.
Gilbert Fritz wrote:
Now chickens eating bugs from compost piles is a great idea, one I have thought about a lot. Tough organic matter can't really be eaten by anything, so if we could convert it, we would be coming out ahead. But it all depends on how many cubic feet of the stuff we would need per chicken.
Gilbert Fritz wrote: There may be no problem doing something in an area where everyone owns hundreds of acres
Nicole Alderman wrote:it just might be a whole lot less duck meat than I'd like! Perhaps that's something we need to get used to.
Perhaps what we need to do is look at how many and what type of animals live best in our areas, and the amount that live there in a given acreage, and see if we can double that though intensive management, and be okay with how much meat we're getting.
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