brand new video:
       
get all 177 hours of
presentations here.
  • Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic

Simulating meat  RSS feed

 
Max Kennedy
Posts: 484
Location: Englehart, Ontario, Canada
1
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Would anyone have good recipes for meat alternatives that will simulate meat for bbq's, pulled pork, hamburgers etc....?
 
John Weiland
Posts: 933
Location: RRV of da Nort
43
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I don't have any good, hard-n-fast recipes for replacing the meat flavor and texture, but maybe a few things-n-thoughts for getting started and generally found at most grocers. This may not be what you were looking for, but a place to start experimenting maybe.

1) Vital Gluten (typically 75%)--Bob's Red Mill a common supplier in the States.
2) Extra Firm Tofu
3) Mushrooms
4) nuts of your choice
5) Nutritional Yeast flakes
6) garlic or garlic powder
7) cooked bean mash, from either cooked whole beans or bean powder
Lots of your favorite spices.

I've found R. Wilkinson's Baked Seitan recipe ( http://www.permies.com/t/55575/vegan/kitchen/Baked-Seitan-wheat-meat-gluten ) to be a great facsimile of chicken nuggets....good with dipping sauces. Seitan prepared either that way or in numerous other ways found on the internet can be ground (lightly) in a blender as can the firm tofu and mushrooms. This forms a nice 'burger base' for making patties or for using as 'sloppy joes'. For making patties, use the ground seitan/tofu/mushroom mix combined with something like refried bean paste or a nut-paste/butter along with nutritional yeast, garlic powder and other spices, and a bit more vital-gluten powder to bind things together. Add enough water (or something flavorful with water like tomato juice) to get things mixed into a paste. If the mix is too thin to make a patty, you can also add uncooked rolled oats or oat bran, sometimes ground almond or other nuts, etc. And generously use spices and flavorings like mustard, paprika, liquid smoke, salt/pepper, etc.
The patties are pan-fried in oil....you may wish to try adding oil directly to the burger mix and letting it do the work on the grill. Alternatively, you may just lightly cook the patties in oil in a pan and then transfer them to the grill for finishing.

The only recipe at this point for faux pulled pork that I've seen is to use jack fruit: http://minimalistbaker.com/bbq-jackfruit-sandwiches-with-avocado-slaw/
 
Jd Gonzalez
Posts: 225
Location: Virginia,USA zone 6
13
forest garden greening the desert hunting trees
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
If you're committed to veganism why doctor and process products to look, taste, and feel like animal flesh? Not judging just asking.
 
alex Keenan
Posts: 487
12
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Jd Gonzalez wrote: If you're committed to veganism why doctor and process products to look, taste, and feel like animal flesh? Not judging just asking.


I agree, trying to make something taste like something it is not can be alot of effort.

Why go through this effort when there are so many flavors and textures available to vegans?

You may wish to examine your cooking techniques, for many of the protein source benefit from cooking styles they may not be common in your culture.

Legumes, mushrooms, etc. may be common to climate zones, however how each food culture prepares them can be very different.

I would start with looking at the possible nutrients sources and then look at ways different cultures prepare them.

You will likely find some really great recipes you like.

As for your meat loving guests, as a meat lover myself, don't try to feed them vegeburgers. Make me a good vegan curry on a work over the grill instead!!!
 
Max Kennedy
Posts: 484
Location: Englehart, Ontario, Canada
1
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Jd Gonzalez wrote: If you're committed to veganism why doctor and process products to look, taste, and feel like animal flesh? Not judging just asking.


Because I like hamburgers, steaks etc and though not ready to give it up entirely at this time am conscious of the environmental impact of even grass fed vs factory farmed and am looking to reduce the burden.
 
chip sanft
pollinator
Posts: 425
Location: 18 acres & heart in zone 4 (central MN). Current abode: Knoxville (zone 6 /7)
32
bike books dog urban
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Max Kennedy wrote:Because I like hamburgers, steaks etc and though not ready to give it up entirely at this time am conscious of the environmental impact of even grass fed vs factory farmed and am looking to reduce the burden.


My thinking is similar. There are lots of dishes I like that have meat in them. Substituting plant-derived protein helps the environment, and one's health. For what it's worth, there is a long history in the Chinese culture world of creating imitation meat for Buddhists who won't eat flesh but still want kung-pao chicken or whatever. There are lots of restaurants in Taiwan, for instance, which are veggie (and advertise themselves as such) but still serve all the usual Chinese food, just made with substitutes. Some are more convincing than others, of course, but it's pretty inspiring.
 
Your mother was a hamster and your father was a tiny ad:
FT Position Available: Affiliate Manager Who Loves Permaculture & Homesteading
https://permies.com/t/69742/FT-Position-Affiliate-Manager-Loves
  • Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
Boost this thread!