Richard Force wrote:So I'm one of those people who find them selves in a dilemma of how to figure out a way in which to escape the life of a non permie but I feel at a huge disadvantage because I personally can't decide to just up and leave the life I have now and begin working on this gigantic Permaculture dream that I so drive to start for just a few simple reasons.
First I have no money.
Second I have a family which I must care for (wife and 5 children.)
Third I own no property in which I would like to peacefully as possible put the Permaculture skills to work.
And last and most difficult for me is that I'm diabetic.
So my question to all my wonderful fellow permie is this:
How in the world do I go about leaving my job selling automotive parts to tree cutters and chem farmers, get my own property, generate an income, and raise my family all while at home?
If I need to go into more detail as to what kind of help I need or more details please let me know I'll help fill any gaps so that you may answer my question and in return hopefully I can help someone else when the time comes.
On and Paul Wheaton is AWESOME!!! Just saying lol.
paul wheaton wrote:You need to read "Mortgage Free" and "Early Retirement Extreme". Focus on building your grubstake.
You need to build your knowledge. Fortunately, there is a lot of excellent information out there in many formats.
In 1998 I wanted land to do my "cows and chickens" plan. I had about $80,000 in debt. I moved my wife and two kids to a cheap place in denver where there was a lot more work than in missoula. I started off earning far more than I ever earned in all of my life. I found that if I worked 40 hours per week, I had about 10% of my income to go to debts and bring me closer to land, cows and chickens. If I worked 45 hours per week, my debt was reduced three times faster. I did a lot of crazy stuff to get my income-per-hour to quadruple and then I worked two full-time jobs. In two years I had paid off my debt and had set aside quite a bit for land. And simultaneously reading gobs of books.
David Livingston wrote:I think you are being hard on yourself as many rented property's are in such a bad state garden/ land wise you could not make things worse if you tried
Richard Force wrote:
I understand that that not the issue it's just how I've always been. I want to practice on my own stuff so that I don't get complaints and such. I'm not a controversial type person. I understand Permaculture is going to involve so controversy but I'm slowly working my way to being able to handle things it's mostly I don't want it too effect my family especially when I'm broke most of the time and have very young children to worry about.
Nina Jay wrote:
That sounds so familiar, ie. like me I too want to practice on my own stuff because I'm terrified of causing harm to other people or their property. I always try to take the risks that I take so that if all goes wrong the only person who has to suffer is myself. Now that's very difficult to do when you have young children. This fear of failure was severe when my children were very young. As my children got older this fear became much less of an issue and I find I can now take risks and accept failure much better. I think that a big part of what you might feel (what I felt when my kids were small) is normal and natural for that situation and will get better with time.
It's quite common to feel trapped in one's life situation especially when one has young children. I felt so at that time, even though I wanted to have children and love them. The everyday life with young children is just so exhausting. It's difficult to analyze which feeling comes from where when things are so hectic as they are in a young family.
Having five children IS a big responsibility. Could it be that you are overwhelmed and tired (it would be no wonder!) and that's part of why you want to get away?
Richard Force wrote:. My kids love playing in the dirt and seeing my 3 55 gallon rain barrels full after a large rain, they also love picking the fresh strawberries and tomatoes. I grow lavender because my youngest loves to eat it. We have purslane that i found and scattered around the front yard so that now I have giant patches of it that grow each year that my kids love to pick and eat fresh.
But what I want is to get away from the part where I still have to go to the store for most of my food