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brian hanford
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We bought a house near Seattle with the plan that we would move to eastern wa later. wanting more acreage and a drier climate. well we found 40 acres out side of Oroville, we have been camping there for 4 years now. my daughter has spent time every summer there of her life. we are getting ready to start heavy planning now so i figured we would use permies as a place to record and discuss what we do. so far i have a great many plans in my head but the one i cant get down is the home site. just cant figure the best place, i will be posting some pics as i get them done. so a little background as i am not just some crazy city-o-phile. i grew up with a grandfather farmer 35 acre orchard of apples and ran his own trucking and packing operation. spent every summer there out side of wenatchee. looking over the orchard now, he was a genius there is not a single solid block of one type and he planted over 10 varieties of crab apples. what looks like weeds under feet is 20 different types of plants setup as a support system for the trees. the prunings were dropped in the isles and we ran the brush hog over them till they were just chips. i was a nurseryman and ran a nursery and a production green house when i was younger. now i am embarking on my own homestead with my now wife and kids. the adventure continues.
 
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Here's some pics
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in the pond
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cut out for the spring into the pond
 
brian hanford
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start of a cabin, and old faithful 76 ford
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looking over the pond
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below the pong berm
 
brian hanford
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OVER HEAD
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ABOUT THE WHOLE PROPERTY APPROX EDGES
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close up of pond and meadow
 
brian hanford
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here is a close up of the best area for a home site. i have 4 potential sites there is some old logging roads left over from when the area was logged. it was then used by cattle ranchers for grazing after. was told the pond was built by ranchers about 40 years ago.
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house sites
 
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Looks like a nice place brian, I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with it !
 
brian hanford
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here is a more in depth plan with our preferred house site. wife liked the lowest one but i think that would put the house in line with the pond if it ever over flowed, or failed. pond is approximately 280,000 gallons when full. we currently have home stead hogs and two mini horses, wanting to expand to include sheep and no more than 4 highland cows. thin blue lines denote old logging roads. any comments and advise wanted.
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Pure Living for Life found that having a hill behind there house site enabled having a cistern that supplies gravity water pressure to the site. Something to think about when you are off grid and water is seasonal.
 
brian hanford
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Where I plan on the house there is a steep hill side with a old road cut in above about 75 feet up figured to run the pipe along the road and have a small cistern above the house. figured soon having the main well and cistern above the orchard. Gravity water systems are a must just makes everything easier. Only problem I see is that the pipe will have to be trenched 3+ feet deep. And it is a long ways to do it.

Thank you for your input it us a part I hadn't put down.
 
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i have a great many plans in my head but the one i cant get down is the home site.


wife liked the lowest one but i think that would put the house in line with the pond if it ever over flowed, or failed. pond is approximately 280,000 gallons when full.
 

probably a good idea to stay out of the path of that capacity.

Four considerations when I have been figuring out my house site are light, noise, potential for trees to fall on the house, and water overflow from the creek blowing out (which is a pretty minor event, but still...).  I like the sound of my little creek, and don't like the sound of the highway.  I like to have the greatest access to sunlight (for passive solar design), and know that a house can be built to create shade when needed so I don't need landscape or living things to shade it, but the amount of direct light is limited by the Northern Latitude, tall trees (by the creek that I don't want to cut), and the solar aspect in relation to the ridges on the mountain behind me, or tall mountains directly across the valley from me, or a very tall tree that is just off my property on neighbor's land.  One sight is limited by nearby trees that are not big yet, but at twenty feet and growing like weeds are either going to need to be pruned to hedges, or eliminated if I choose to build near them, as they will grow to a hundred or more feet, and so a house should be at least that far from them or the trees need cutting.  These trees might provide a barrier to the creek blowing out, but also a barrier to the creek sounds.  So to maximize light, and be close enough to the small creek to hear it (at least when it's in full spring/summer flow)-and yet be far enough from it's overflow course, and to be as far up on the property (away from the highway) as possible and not so far that a tree might fall on it, I ended up with limited options.

I guess my advice is to list the things that you most want in a house location, and make another list about the hazards or detriments in the landscape/property.  Map these out and then look at your options.  
 
brian hanford
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So completely forgot to include elevation, property starts at about 4000' and the top is just shy of 4800' zone 3-4. we want to include at least two small houses 600-800 sqft. for wooffers or renters as we need, figure to use one as we build the main house. one of the main things we will start next year is the orchard area. the livestock areas will be a food forest, but i want an area to grow intensive tree crops figuring nut, fruit, and bush crops, 30+ types. this is the orchard marked out area.
 
brian hanford
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Getting ready to plan a late may trip for timber stand improvement, and start working on the orchard area. Figured to use downed timber to make huglekulture terraces. Then plant the trees next to these in on contour lines. Got a laser transit to mark them out. This area has a nature spring runs under to the pond. Want to do at least two ponds uphill from the main one. With seasonal ponds higher up. 
 
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Trying to figure how to make the log terraces. Want them buried alittle but need them to be a sponge to help water the trees lots of snow and spring rain with two + months dry. Want to capture the water and terraces the same time.
 
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