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Vegan permaculture revelation: encouragement of wild animals for their ecosystem benefits

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I am not a vegan, though I admire vegans' empathy. However, I have always questioned the plausibility of animal free permaculture. Then, after having success with feeding my chickens a large percentage of sprouted birdseed (cheaper than chicken food and seems to be their preference and has improved laying), I came to a holy cow/no shit realization. Before I had chickens I spread bird food where I wanted wild birds to feed on insects as well as fertilize for subsequent garden plots. Now I use chickens/ducks/turkeys for fertilizer and food. It seems obvious now that one could simply optimize your system to encourage a ton of wild birds similar to running chickens and protect things strategically when starting them out or harvesting fruit. This also has run into my observation/theory about how vineyards and orchards that are left to the birds get fertilized as much as they feed the birds due to the nature of their one track digestive system that puts out what goes in at a pretty steady rate. My best friend has a vineyard in the willamette valley with several resident hawks that like this approach as well. I think the key for vegan farming is to still encourage animals, and by not harvesting them you could get their ecosystem benefits and produce vegetation very efficiently.
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Hey Ben
    My name is Shaun . My girlfriend and I have a small flock of 6 chickens , a tight on the grid backyard, but we recently rescued a rejected homing pigeon.   He is also free range most of the day with the chickens.  I have been throwing pigeon food and seeds all over, Massive Increase In wild birds also swooping in amongst the the chickens. Its' a great feeling to help provide for the little remaining wildlife in our area....    From a primarily plant based diet- Perspective,    I think its great to have animals some animals incorporated  in making fertile dirt for the compost, they going in and constantly scratch through all the garden material, keeping things fresh , they  also all have such a lively charm !  I think any Vegan'' Should have some form of symbiotic relationship with animals still to show others their potential with-out the use of factory farming.  Thanks for posting
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