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hi im trying to germinate morus alba seeds, but im having some difficulty, i have a bit of experience in botany but im trying my hand in growing some white mulberries for a hobby of mine, could anyone give me expert advice on what to do as ive tried stratifying the seeds and exposing them to light, am i missing something else all together?
 
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Do you have access to cuttings?
 
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no sorry, i have no viable sources for cuttings, only seeds, but i do have a source for morus nigra, could give me some tips too if you'd like heheh oh and before i forget, merry Xmas!!
 
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Merry Christmas to you too!

I put my first attempt at rooting Morris alba in the ground a few months ago. They're supposed to root pretty easily though. If my parent tree was bigger, I'd send you a cutting. I'll check and see if it could spare one. I think my Morus alba x rubra could spare one or two.

Maybe you are wanting to plant a whole forest though?

Mulberries are pretty weedy here, but I think they're Morus nigra. I'm not sure. They taste great but stain bad. They come up in my yard, and there isn't a tree within a few blocks as far as I know. Oh, I wonder if they have to pass through a bird to germinate?
 
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thank you, well im a bit far from you to recieve cuttings plus its also impossible as im actualy in fact on a  island called new zealand, in the great southern hemisphere, im originally from south africa and we as kids absolutly love the tree in raiding it for fruit and leaves for silkworm raising, new zealand has morus alba but only in the form of the weaping white mulberry, and they rare and few inbetween, but seeds i can get of the large variety but only in seed form, hence my enthusiasm to grow from seed, i love a challenge hahaha, but good note on the digestive tracts of birds, maybe scarification could do the tick as i think thats what the gizzards of birds do, plus warm and cold stratification. will try to get cuttings from a large morus nigra down the road and see if it works.
 
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Hello Rudi,

The last few years, I have been germinating mulberry trees from seeds, here in Northern Greece.

I collect seeds from wild  mulberry trees, let them dry, separate the seeds, and then simply place them in a flower pot with soil... and cover them with a thin layer of soil, and water them...make sure they do not dry out. You may only get 10 – 20 % germination rate, but seeds are cheap and plentiful around here.

Once the trees grow, you can graft them, and from each tree, you can have 3 to 4 varieties of  mulberries.

Its a great tree – one of my favorites.

Trees grown from seed, are a strong and healthy.

Good Luck

Kostas
 
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thanks for that info, will try it for sure, is there any techniques to enable more of a succesful germination rate?
 
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Not that I know of...not an issue for me...I just grab a handful of seeds, throw them in a pot and water (easy and simple)...from this summer six young trees are growing, which I will transplant during the winter, in the farm.... more than enough for me...not interested in huge numbers.
Kostas
 
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will try the throw and grow technique hahaha merry xmas!!
 
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I grow thousands of morus alba from seed every year. They don't need any treatment. You can just plant the dried seeds in spring, lightly raked into the soil. Slugs can devastate the sprouts.
Viability of seed lots depends mostly on the proximity of male mulberry trees.
I wrote an article on propagating mulberries if you're interested.
 
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What a great article Akiva.

Thank You.

It is indeed a very useful tree, and its amazing adaptable...from cold to arid regions, it keeps producing fruit.

What a great picture, to see the sea of young mulberry trees !!!

Kostas
 
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