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I have been thinking about something: I ude CBD Oil on my exzema - and it takes away the itch. In periods where my eczema is bad I also take three drops of concentrated oil under the tounge every night - and even if sleep isn't the purpose of doing this I must say that it makes. E sleep incredibly deeply (which would reduce my stress level and thus also help my eczema) - I usually sleep really well but this is just amazing and I dream vivid dreams (bc. I sleep so deeply?).

However the CBD oil is really expensive (€28/10ml) - when I take it orally I use one bottle or week, i.e. >€100/month... and I have been thinking of growing it myself. Only problem with that is that even if it is legal to grow for my own consumption, the police in Spain is not really agreeing on the law and even farmers with licenses have seen whole fields of hemp destroyed by police officers and no compensation in sight... so I really don't feel like going down that path.

Now Paul claims that ANYTHING cannabis can do nettle can do too. So my question is: Is nettle oil as good for various conditions as CBD oil?

I can buy nettle oil at €30/100ml is 1/10 of the price for CBD. I even have tons of nettle growing in my garden and can make it myself (I would love if someone has a recipe).
 
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I would buy some nettle oil and try it first .
As for making it you will need a still I suspect and lots and lots of time and nettles
 
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David Livingston wrote:I would buy some nettle oil and try it first .
As for making it you will need a still I suspect and lots and lots of time and nettles

OK thanks - we have been thinking about getting a still because we have so much wild lavendler, thyme and rosemary around here and some of our herbalist friends says they are much much better than the cultivars form making herbal medicines.

I am still interested in hearing if anyone knows if the nettle oil is as good as the CBD oil.
 
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http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Essential-Oils there you go
 
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David Livingston wrote:http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Essential-Oils there you go
Thank you!
 
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Dawn Hoff wrote:Now Paul claims that ANYTHING cannabis can do nettle can do too.


my guess is that paul says that because he's got an agenda: to promote nettles. that's a fine agenda, but I wouldn't personally take that particular claim literally.

nettles are great for a lot of things, but they don't contain any CBD. do they contain something else that acts like CBD? I sure don't know. I've heard of nettle oil being used to stimulate the immune system, which could be great for eczema, or really bad. I would recommend starting slow when you try it.

but do try it. I'm very curious to hear how it works out.
 
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Dawn Hoff wrote:ANYTHING cannabis can do nettle can do too.


I can't think of any reason ANY two plants would do exactly what the other does.  CBD is being shown to have pretty extraordinary effects of some health issues.  I wouldn't expect nettle oil to act the same, but there wouldn't be much risk applying it external to see what results you get.  As Tel said, if you try it internally, I would start with very small amounts at first.
 
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I have arthritis thanks to an autoimmune condition and have used and do still use both Nettles and CBD/THC to treat it.  Nettles certainly can help with inflammation however they miss an essential need for people who have autoimmune issues and that is dealing with chronic pain. CBD beats nettles on this alone as well as having powerful anti-inflammatory effects. If I were just using nettles for treating myself I would be stoved up and unmoving many days. I have been prescribed pretty much every med out there for my arthritis and none of them were any where near as effective as CBD. Those prescribed meds all had more negative effects on me than the pain relief they provided. Not saying CBD is a miracle cure, just that it is hands down the most effective pain management drug out there. I still have bad days, but even on those bad days I can still get out and do things albeit at a slower pace. Not so with the other meds I took.
 
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Todd Parr wrote:
Dawn Hoff wrote:ANYTHING cannabis can do nettle can do too.


I can't think of any reason ANY two plants would do exactly what the other does.  CBD is being shown to have pretty extraordinary effects of some health issues.  I wouldn't expect nettle oil to act the same, but there wouldn't be much risk applying it external to see what results you get.  As Tel said, if you try it internally, I would start with very small amounts at first.

I will - and I will experiment on myself first. As I have written in another thread - nettle tea with coconut oil blended in is doing wonders for my sons skin. So maybe nettle oil will be even better - or maybe it is the vast quantities of coconut oil. he is eating that does all the difference.

And I am being a little tounge in cheek about Paul's remark - I do believe the two plants are both wonderful 😉 But the legality of one over the other makes it very much cheaper for me to buy.
 
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Lynn Garcia wrote:I have arthritis thanks to an autoimmune condition and have used and do still use both Nettles and CBD/THC to treat it.  Nettles certainly can help with inflammation however they miss an essential need for people who have autoimmune issues and that is dealing with chronic pain. CBD beats nettles on this alone as well as having powerful anti-inflammatory effects. If I were just using nettles for treating myself I would be stoved up and unmoving many days. I have been prescribed pretty much every med out there for my arthritis and none of them were any where near as effective as CBD. Those prescribed meds all had more negative effects on me than the pain relief they provided. Not saying CBD is a miracle cure, just that it is hands down the most effective pain management drug out there. I still have bad days, but even on those bad days I can still get out and do things albeit at a slower pace. Not so with the other meds I took.

That is good to know. We don't need pain relief, fortunately - eczema is not as debilitating as arthritis in 99% of the cases -fortunately. Even if I do hate it - it is the least sucky of autoimmune diseases, you have my sympathies.
 
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Dawn Hoff wrote: That is good to know. We don't need pain relief, fortunately - eczema is not as debilitating as arthritis in 99% of the cases -fortunately. Even if I do hate it - it is the least sucky of autoimmune diseases, you have my sympathies.


Nettle oil might very well be a good solution for you. I imagine it won't do much for you on nights you are having a hard time sleeping though. CBD's soothing effects are probably what was helping you have those deeply restful nights sleep. Why not just try the switch to nettle oil for most of your symptoms, while still keeping a little CBD oil on hand for when needed?
 
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Lynn Garcia wrote:
Dawn Hoff wrote: That is good to know. We don't need pain relief, fortunately - eczema is not as debilitating as arthritis in 99% of the cases -fortunately. Even if I do hate it - it is the least sucky of autoimmune diseases, you have my sympathies.


Nettle oil might very well be a good solution for you. I imagine it won't do much for you on nights you are having a hard time sleeping though. CBD's soothing effects are probably what was helping you have those deeply restful nights sleep. Why not just try the switch to nettle oil for most of your symptoms, while still keeping a little CBD oil on hand for when needed?

I think I will try thenettle oil and see what it does, and then maybe see if I can find a local source of CBD that is less expensive - because it doesn't work like a sleeping pill, itismore on the lines of making me sleep deeper every night I take it up until a point where I'm just completely out all night and with vivid dreams and wake much more refreshed. I usually sleep well - but with CBD I just feel much more refreshed in the morning and those amazing dreams are healthy I imagine.
 
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Its not really answering you cbd question but it might be a good idea to establish what is really triggering your eczema. For me its stress, too much coffee (more stress when you think about the effect it has on the body) and some synthetic fibres and washing powders. I obvious avoid all these (except coffee) as much as possible.

Anti inflammatory teas for example camomile, ginger, turmeric, dandelion as well as nettle along with good sunlight exposure all have a positive effect on my eczema flair ups.
 
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Henry Jabel wrote:Its not really answering you cbd question but it might be a good idea to establish what is really triggering your eczema. For me its stress, too much coffee (more stress when you think about the effect it has on the body) and some synthetic fibres and washing powders. I obvious avoid all these (except coffee) as much as possible.

Anti inflammatory teas for example camomile, ginger, turmeric, dandelion as well as nettle along with good sunlight exposure all have a positive effect on my eczema flair ups.

I will try to cut out coffe for a while - and replace it with different teas.

I think that the humidity inside our house in the winter (we will get a wood burning stove or RMH before next winter) - plus hours and hours washing dishes - has bebeen important in establishing the eczema, esp. since I notice that if we sleep with the windows closed I wake up and want to chew off my hands in the morning (only thing that can make that go away is CBD oil). I also notice that my sons skin is dryer and he scratches more if we close the window at night. So now I have doors and windows open as much as possible. But lowering stress levels all around will certainly help, so will try to see if not drinking coffe for a while helps.

I never wear sytetics, we have been using the mildest soaps (or none) for 10 years, no fabric softeners, no food additives, mostly organic. Currently I don't eat eggs, nor nuts, peanuts and only fermented dairy (my son has never had any of either)...
 
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So this morning I am sipping nettle tea with butter, coconut oil and stevia - I thought I would have a problem with my own rule about no sugar, but the stevia actually add a nice liquorice flavour to the nettle tea, it really is quite lovely!
 
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I support the Nettle agenda, and any and all experiments with them!

That being said - I live in the heart of the 'Green Banana Belt' of California - so Im very aware of 'medicine culture'. CBD's will be hard to replace, theyre very unique and powerful. I know many people with serious afflictions that only CBD's have helped with, so I struggle to doubt the magic. Pot culture is one thing, but CBD's are a powerful medicine I cant let Paul brush aside

If nettles help - maybe you could supplement the CBD with them? At very least lower the bill...
 
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Ian Rule wrote:I support the Nettle agenda, and any and all experiments with them!

That being said - I live in the heart of the 'Green Banana Belt' of California - so Im very aware of 'medicine culture'. CBD's will be hard to replace, theyre very unique and powerful. I know many people with serious afflictions that only CBD's have helped with, so I struggle to doubt the magic. Pot culture is one thing, but CBD's are a powerful medicine I cant let Paul brush aside

If nettles help - maybe you could supplement the CBD with them? At very least lower the bill...

That could be a plan - maybe add a little CBD oil to the nettle oil...
 
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I dont know about nettles, but comfrey (Symphytum officinale) or sea buckthorn (Hippophae rhamnoides) are supposed to be very effective at healing eczema. Topically. Might be worth looking into if you havent already. Never tried it myself as i dont have that problem. I do have some other skin related issues, or had, making sure i eat enough good virgin oils and zink etc, and eating some liver now and then strenghtened my skin alot, like overnight. I probably was a bit malnourished, hard to get good food in Norway, especially in winter :S
 
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Robert Ur Linden wrote:I dont know about nettles, but comfrey (Symphytum officinale) or sea buckthorn (Hippophae rhamnoides) are supposed to be very effective at healing eczema. Topically. Might be worth looking into if you havent already. Never tried it myself as i dont have that problem. I do have some other skin related issues, or had, making sure i eat enough good virgin oils and zink etc, and eating some liver now and then strenghtened my skin alot, like overnight. I probably was a bit malnourished, hard to get good food in Norway, especially in winter :S

Torskelever måske? (Translate: Cod liver perhaps?).

I can highly sympathise with the lack of nutrition in Norway ... I remember a summer in Lofoten where we payed 35 NKR for half a cucumber (and that was in the 80's..). When I lived in Greenland I used to buy veggies when they were marked down, just before they were tossed... or buy them frozen or canned. But the inuit and the sami did fine before right?

Now I live in Spain and I have plenty of access to fresh fruit and greens - and plenty of Extra Virgin Olive oil. My consumption of liver has dropped drastically since I went grain free - I love paté but hate liver in all other kinds of ways (have tried to make Spaghetti sauce or meat-balls with 20% liver and I just can't seem to get over the taste - wonder how it is that I still love the pate...). I'm a bit at a loss as to what I can eat the pate on (I do sometimes eat some sliced cucumber with pate on, but it doesn't really stick).

I haven't found comfrey down here - will ask in the Iberian forum if anyone has a few roots to spare. I have found borage, in huge quantities - wonder if that would be as good. Zink ... yes I should be eating more seafood, should make sure to get shell-fish at least once a week.

Thank you for the tips! 
 
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Robert Ur Linden wrote:I dont know about nettles, but comfrey (Symphytum officinale) or sea buckthorn (Hippophae rhamnoides) are supposed to be very effective at healing eczema. Topically.

How would you use it- steeped in oil or some other way?
As far as main topic goes, once I had abundance of nettles, so I ate it daily in soups, in green juices, smoothies, tea, etc. Raw and cooked. After 10 or so days of this my neck started to get itchy. I didn't make a connection, so I continued until I got full blown eczema on my neck, and I never got it so bad as an adult. I have it sometime behind my ears or near eyebrows, but not in such a large amount. Finally after 3 weeks I realized, it was nettles or to be exact, overconsumption of nettles. I still have nettle tea or even infusion occasionally without any problems, but now I am watching for the itching reaction.
  Speaking of fresh veggies in winter, sprouts are really easy to grow inside, and they are more nutritious than most veggies out there.
 
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