The neighbors have a new dog which barks. In the past couple of days, they have decided to chain or kennel the dog near our property line, in order for the barking dog to not disturb them while they sleep. The dog barks nonstop for hours, and disturbs my sleep even though we have the windows closed and a ceiling fan on to cover the noise. Because we don't have air conditioning, we will need to have our windows open once the weather becomes warm. The dog will still be barking, and we will not be able to sleep because of the barking.
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In all seriousness, my next door neighbor recently had a person move into his house and he brought a barking dog with him. All night long . . . driving us crazy. I went over and spoke to them, and they basically told me to F off. We live in a nice neighborhood, and they are letting their house fall to pieces. The state will be repossessing the house from them if they don't pay back taxes, which I don't think they'll be able to get their poop in a group and do . . . so I guess we'll just wait until October when they'll finally be evicted.
Sucks, but sometimes you've got to wait it out. Hopefully that dog will eventually get tired of hearing his own voice keeping himself awake at night.
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Documentation is your best friend. Keep a journal, including days, times and any witnesses to the Barking. If things escalate, this will make things so much easier for you. It can often prevent things from escalating.
Are you on speaking terms with your neighbour? If so, maybe visit them to let them know your concerns. They may simply be clueless that the noise is bothersome.
I note that you said the dog is new rather than the neighbours. What were your relations with the neighbour like before they got the dog? Obviously they realise the dog barking is a nuisance because it must have been keeping them awake, hence why they moved it. So maybe they just don't realise it is now keeping you awake. Do they want it outside so it is a deterrent to trespassers or do they just think this is the best way to treat a dog? Read up on dog psychology/training methods so you can offer them sympathetic helpful advice. Is the dog bored/lonely at night because it is sleeping during the day? Is the dog friendly at all or is it just a guard? Offer to walk it during the day so it is tired at night?
I would be very polite and so sweet that sugar wouldn't melt in my mouth. Then if they are ugly or ignore you altogether, you won't be so much of a suspect when the dog mysteriously disappears.........
These are long-time neighbors with whom we've had relatively cordial relations but with ongoing dog problems - their old dog has spent the past decade coming into our yard every day to crap. It is very important to her to do that, apparently! Years ago we complained about the dog coming over here and were told "Yes, she gets out." Nothing about trying to keep her at home, just an acknowledgment that yes, she does indeed get out and run loose. Which is illegal but who cares?
I think I've identified where the new dog is being tied at night, at a deer feeder near the property line. Maybe tonight when the dog starts barking I'll go over there and see. Then I may attempt a phone call.
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posted 1 year ago
Poor dog - go and bring it in and put it back in the morning.
Poor dog, indeed. My shepherd would be inconsolable if he couldn't sleep by my side, much less if I left him alone outside! But, I suppose that is neither here nor there. Anyhow, how about training the dog not to bark? That assumes, of course, that your neighbors would not be adverse to using an electric collar. I have very mixed feelings on that myself, but at least, the dog will learn very quickly! Given the alternatives (and these scenarios can get very ugly), it just might be the best solution for you and your neighbors and their dog. Also, if you can afford it, offering to pay for the collar would go a long way toward keeping that cordial relationship.
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WHY DO DOGS BARK:
1) Need (water, food, companionship, cold, hot.....)
2) BOREDOM AND LONELINESS that soon breeds anxiety and paranoia about the tiniest noise.
3) Protecting territory from invading animals, and other perceived intruders.
1) Make sure the dog is not truly in need of food, water or shelter. First address the basics, does it have housing, food and water? If not, document for several days (supplement food and water) then If this is a case of neglect provide for the dog through the fence and call the authorities (SPCA, Humane Society, Animal Control etc.).
2) This is likely a large component of why this particular dog is barking. It is scared, lonely and bored, if not also hungry, thirsty, cold/warm. If the basics are taken care of, then it is mental abuse (lack of companionship, attention, boredom etc.) and you can offer to fill this void by walking the dog, providing attention and companionship through the fence, toys, treats etc. Again, I get that this is not your dog, but it is a potential solution.
3) We want them to bark, within reason, to alert us to trespassers of both the human and animal sort, but we need them to understand that their message has been received, thank you, and we no longer need a warning about that particular thing at this time. This is a training issue for both humans and dogs. Dogs are like a three year old child, they need to know you heard them, understood them, and are taking steps to deal with what they are trying to tell you - like when you are on the phone and your toddler keeps bugging you "Mum...Mum....Mum....Bobby's bugging me...Mum...Mum...MUM!!! BOBBY'S BUGGING ME!!!". Until you actually acknowledge the child, look them in the eye and give them your full attention and deal with the issue, they keep "barking" at you. Same with the dog. Acknowledge them, "go and see" what they are barking at, THEN tell them they are a good dog, but that everything is fine now, thank you for letting me know. This is how they learn what to bark at, when barking is acceptable, and how to not become a mindless yapper. We must teach them what to notify us about, reward that, but do not ignore barking or just yell stop, do them the honor of investigating what they are trying to tell you about, respect that they feel this is some sort of danger, then educate them as to what is appropriate to alert you to.
Obviously first step is to try to get the owners on side and have them deal with the issue...but reality is such that most folks will not respond well, or at all to such a request. That said, lie through your teeth, tell them how adorable their new dog is, blah, blah, blah and then apologize for being such a light sleeper (or it wakes the baby....blah, blah, blah) and that you know you being a light sleeper is not THEIR problem and you ARE using earplugs and white noise machine....but if they could perhaps help you...... Yeah, I know, what a bunch of BS, but make it YOUR problem and ask for their help, it usually works out better than 'SHUT YOUR DAMN DOG UP' which will just make them defensive, argumentative, potentially aggressive and for sure, unwilling to deal with the issue, just to spite you.
Dogs "disappear" all the time from "bad situations"... speak with local rescue groups and see if you can find a placement for a "homeless dog, running at large". Then have it disappear (best when they are at work or overnight) and rehome it.
Most areas have some sort of noise bylaw, as suggested by some others, start keeping records: log barking time of day, length of barking, frequency of barking. Take photos/video of dogs living conditions, video dog barking at all hours of the day and night. They don't say a picture is worth a thousand words for nothing - video is likely worth millions of words!!
I understand this is not your dog, but it may as well be with the lack of attention they are giving it - it will likely be up to you to train it as to what is appropriate to bark at, and what is inappropriate.
As a human, currently owned by 11 dogs, I am very anal about my dogs not being disruptive to the neighbors (we are on tiny half acre lots). On top of that, they are primarily Miniature Pinschers, who are notorious for barking (around here birds over head, smoke from the neighbors burn pile just to name two of their perceived territorial intruders). I have tried several of the ultrasonic units that you "hang" outside and are battery powered, they run around $50 but can be had for much more and much less...and they do work, but only initially, in my experience. It seems within a week or so they become immune to it. One lasted a few weeks, but boom, tried new battery, just in case, nope, they just no longer care. My two friends tried them with their MinPins, one had the same result as me, the other turned it off after a couple of days and just has to bring it out and the dogs stop barking - but it must be used sporadically, and of course is useless if they are not home to wave it about.
I do use bark collars on some of my more neurotic dogs - the ones who start barking and then become so hysterical they just can't stop. Of course, this gets the others all freaked out and barking (I call it chorus barking) because if one thinks there is danger, well, heck, all the others better join in, even if they have no idea why dog 1 was barking in the first place. Interestingly, the collars have actually IMPROVED the life of the barkers by stopping them before they become hysterical and freak themselves out even more!! They now have the ability to assess noises and danger (even with the collar off) before becoming hysterical.
The collars I use are a dual system, bark and vibration activated, and increase in strength with EACH bark up to a level ten. This allows them to bark two or three times, before collar activation bothers them. They can still speak, they just can no longer "yell" hysterically. With each bark, the correction zap intensifies. I know this sounds cruel, but we tried it ourselves, it is equivalent to the static shock we got as kids from shuffling on shag carpet. Not painful, but certainly not pleasing or something one can just ignore. The intensity is up to the dog, them more it barks in a row, the greater strength to the zap. There is one drawback, some dogs learn the secret of spacing their barks so that the collar intensity is not affected - it resets to zero after 5-10 seconds!
You can also get remote collars that put the zap power in your hands. I personally failed with this method as I was not consistent with the correction, and just ended up confusing the dogs more than anything. But a more dedicated person may find this works better for them.
Bark collars are NOT cheap, and you do get what you pay for with this item. If this is a route you are thinking of make sure you factor in the cost of powering the collar...some are rechargeable (but then you need two, otherwise the collar is on charge every couple of days and dog has no collar), others are battery operated (the PetSafe collars I use have a proprietary battery that costs $15 each!!) but often there are "battery hacks" on line that can lower the cost of replacement batteries.
Oh, and again, nice as pie, let them know regularly that the dog barking is STILL an issue. My neighbors didn't, I heard about it at from the local feed store clerk who warned me my neighbor was choked! I thought the problem had been dealt with (no barking when we were home) but apparently when we were away (rarely) the dogs would go barking mad. If I had known this I would have dealt with the "away barking" much sooner.
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Thank you all so much for these suggestions. The dog situation seems to have calmed down lately. I think they decided the remote tie-out wasn't a good plan. Still not entirely responsible dog owners - last night the dog was just randomly running around barking for about an hour. This dog had previously had a run-in with a porcupine so I'd have thought the neighbors might have learned from that not to let the dogs run loose at night. But no.
Currently the situation seems bearable, so I'm hoping it will continue so. We don't want to make enemies of any neighbors, and I want to try to be the good and patient neighbor.
Dana Jones wrote:I would be very polite and so sweet that sugar wouldn't melt in my mouth. Then if they are ugly or ignore you altogether, you won't be so much of a suspect when the dog mysteriously disappears.........
Wish I had done that to begin with. It's so out there now that my only remedy is court.
Willy, if you’ve been irate with the dog’s owners before, you might try some peace-making. If that doesn’t get you anywhere, there are usually noise ordinances. Good luck with your situation. Just about anything is less bad than court.
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posted 1 month ago
I've tried to talk to her. Didn't work. Actually, it has backfired and if I go to her house again I will be arrested. Animal Control has sent many letters and they are ignored. The police have been to her house 3-4 times a week since June and they are ignored. My last hope is taking her to court. If her dogs "disappeared" all fingers point to me because now I am the bad guy. How's that for turning a victim into a criminal!
My town has a barking dog ordinance, but my state has a Right to Farm Act...
My dog will often bark all night, but then again, she kind of has too. She is a Livestock Guard Dog, so when the coyotes come out at night, my dog lets them know where her territory is and barks.
But even if my neighbors complained (none have), despite my town having a barking dog rule, my state's Right to Farm Act would supercede it. Basically it recognizes that farm's are unique, and just as if my sheep manure will sometimes smell, my tractors have to operate some times at 4 AM, my dog;s barking is just as important to my overall farm operation.
As a full-time farmer, I do my best work with a hoe, but what does that say about my wife Katie?
Get a ultra sonic dog training thingy lol cant rember the name and it works on most dogs it makes a noise that they hate but we cant hear. I used this on 3 nabiors dogs "apperently no one trains their dogs anymore" it worked on 2 of them realy well youll need to get fairly close to them maby 30 ft depending on the brand you get and every time it barks buzz them for 2 to 4 seconds after they relise its a responce to their bark they will stop some are more stubborn and will need reminding for a few days but it worked on 2 of 3 for me. It looks like a tv remote with 1 botton and there only a few bucks a