Caroline Rodgers wrote:I had one of these until my HOA made me take it down.
Basil, rosemary, small herbs and strawberries can work. Potatoes, bay leaves, carrots, and onions will not. You might want to consider making or buying a stand that you could hang\place bigger growth containers
Amit Enventres wrote:Those pockets look small and will probably dry out fast unless it's a hydroponic set up. Those aren't live flowers shown in the pockets of the photo. As for small-space-okay-things: rocket, basil, thyme, oregano, green onions/chives, micro and baby lettuce/greens have worked for me in the past.
I have no idea what your yard looks like. A lot of that stuff takes space. Some can be grown indoors with a bright sunny window.
I do garden design in Ohio and used to live in CA and grow on a garden on my apartment balconies. I know a lot of people here also have experience designing gardens. Maybe you could post a sketch of the area you have to work with and scribble lightly on the shady areas?
Amit Enventres wrote:That's not horribly small! The food forest part of my garden is about that size. I have 14 fruit trees, 16 bushes, a pond, a green house, composting contraption, a bunch of berry brambles, a couple grapes, some asparagus, a mushroom patch, and a bunch of annuals. I have some paths to get around in that jungle.
I assume you want some open space in your garden and that's why you are going for the pockets?
Deb Stephens wrote:Amit,
Those plant pockets are awfully small, but more importantly the shape is bad. They narrow at the bottom -- precisely where a plant needs the most room for its roots. If I were you, I would use that pocket thing in a workshop or shed for tools (trowels, screwdrivers, wrenches, etc. or even screws and nails) and make better use of the fences by hanging buckets, window boxes, plant pots, etc. from them.
I don't know what kind of fence you have, but depending upon how strong it is, you could easily hang average-size flower pots (or buckets, cans, boxes, etc.) ... say, up to 1 gallon size, by simply drilling a couple holes in the back and wiring them to the fence (or hang from S-hooks). Bigger pots could go on the ground a couple feet in front of a solid fence (so they can get more light) or right up against a chain link or wire fence. If you put pots of beans, cucumbers, peas -- anything that vines or can be trained to grow vertically -- in pots at the base of the fence, the fence can be the support. You can also put a window box at the top and let vines trail down.
You might also consider constructing planting boxes or beds along the fences. No one ever just walks around or sits right up against a fence, so that is unused space anyway for the most part. Why not make yourself some narrow -- like 2' wide" -- raised beds a few inches in front of the fence. You don't want them touching the fence because the moisture in the soil could cause a wood fence to rot, or if your fence is wire, the soil would sift through. If you make them about 2' high, they will hold quite a bit of soil so you could even plant potatoes or other root vegetables in them. If you make them from wood and put wide finish boards on the top, you can sit on them while you weed. (Great if you have a lot of weeds or a bad back! )
At any rate there are a lot of other great ideas out there for growing on or next to fences. Check some of these out for inspiration ...
Amit Enventres wrote:Yeah, trampolines take up a lot of space and renting means espelier trees aren't worth it- especially if the landlord is talking fake grass. Good luck with the pockets! I had a balcony garden with lots of all sizes for a while and it was very educational as to what and how to grow things. Life changing really.
Joseph Fields wrote:Our vertical strawberry wall using Larry's flower pouches. https://steemit.com/gardening/@josephinky/going-vertical-with-plants
Joseph Fields wrote:Worked good for greens in the spring. To hot for then now.
Deb Stephens wrote:Dave,
After looking through all your photos, I have to say that whatever does or does not come up in your vertical garden, you have a gift to be envied -- you've managed to grow a great family. With such sweet and willing helpers, it will have to work out well in the end!
Alexandra Clark wrote:Warning....do NOT use commercial bird seed as food stuff. They spray it intensely with chemicals to kill bugs inside the seed and prevent mold so they can store it longer. Please do not eat those sunflower sprouts. As a parrot parent I learned all folks feeding wild bird seed to parrots and how it significantly shortens their lives. I didn't see this post until today or I would have warned you ahead of time.
I spent years growing greens easy as pie--buckwheat and sunflower--you can get a very reasonable supply of human food grade seeds at most health food stores. I know you are in the UK, so the suppliers may be different, but I would seek out human grade seeds for this project.
Good luck with your projects--things seem to be coming along quite well!