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We need permies to come and live in our area (Coimbra, central Portugal)

 
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Hi dear Permies,

I just saw a topic about Monsanto, I wanted to post in that topic about the other region in central Portugal, we need more permies here as well! But I thought making a new topic would get more attention..

Here on the other side of the Serra da Estrella are also a lot of people busy with permaculture, but I hope more will come! Its mostly foreigners (people from England, Germany, Holland and Belgium), who are concentrated around towns like Barril do Alva, Benfeita and Tabua. I am a bit more to the north, on the way to Viseu. Land prices here are about the same as in Castelo Branco (€0,50 per square metre for forest, double that for farmland with a good well). In my opinion this region is a bit less isolated than Castelo Branco region. There are plenty of websites that show land for sale in this region, but please keep in mind you pay more if you buy with help of such a company. You can skip paying Remax and co by just inform in local bars about land for sale. After I did that, a lot of 'for sale' signs popped up around here! People will also try to get a better price when they sell to foreigners, maybe you don't mind pay a little more, but be careful you don't pay too much, since that also affects the locals, if prices rises, they cannot afford to buy land anymore!

If you want some more information, let me know!
 
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Hello! I hope you get lots of new permie faces coming into the region soon :) My partner and I just bought some land in Portugal and put together some tips based on our experiences :) Hopefully someone here finds it useful! xx



 
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Andreas. My partner and I are just beginning our search for somewhere in Portugal. Just a small little place we can build over time. Can you recommend any website to start looking in Coimbra? Thanks.
 
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Hi Alex,

since I am not looking for land, I am not the best guy to ask. I remember when I was looking for land online, I found a lot of info on websites to be outdated. One of the well known websites for land for sale in central Portugal (not only Coimbra but also a lot in Castelo Branco) is http://www.pureportugal.co.uk/properties/. Please note I wouldnt advise to buy something from that website, or expect to pay double price. Maybe you think its that cheap, you dont care to pay too much, but please keep in mind that foreigners buying land here above market prices, affects the local people, who see themselves outbid.

But just to get an idea about whats for sale, looking online can be helpful. It might be a good idea to check also olx.pt for plots for sale. But since almost everything here is for sale (not everything is on the market, but most people would like to sell), it would make more sense to get to know the area, decide where you want to be, and go investigate in the local bars to find a suited plot in that area.

Good luck, and if you find yourself in my area, feel free to contact me. Maybe you could become my neighbour!
 
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Hi, Andreas,

In April I purchased a bit more than 1 hectare in Santo Varão. As you can see in the image (if it attached), I'm starting with a blank canvas. Very few trees and other plants: two bay trees, a quince, wild roses, blackberries, bamboo, elms, plum and some other miscellaneous things I haven't yet identified.

Still thinking, researching and making drawings. I may get something started in April of 2019 when I'm back in Portugal. I can always use a bit of local inspiration. If you have blogs, Facebook or Instagram, I'd love to take a look.
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The land in May with wildflowers
 
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Hi Andreas and all!!
My partner and I are looking at Portugal or Spain to buy land, and I am planning a visit in the summer.
Has anyone had any success lately in buying land? Any websites to check out first?
We dont have stacks of cash, but we have faith that we are doing the right thing.
Its so good to see others want to do the same.. Good luck to you all.
 
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Hello Helen,

I didnt have succes in buying land lately, but I didnt try. So I cannot tell you anything about websites, I dont know any more than stated above. I would recommend to look at land for sale on websites, just to get an idea, but keep in mind, most land is for sale, but not online. So good you are planning to visit the peninsula this summer, the best way to find (cheap) land is to ask around in local bars.

You dont need a lot of money to buy some land, some small plots costs just a few hundreds of euros.

Good luck!
 
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Thanks Andreas.it's great to hear something positive!

Good luck in your search!
 
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What search? I am getting confused now.. Did you read the thread?
 
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Yes, sorry Andreas. I was on a train with my phone trying to post replies.

Thanks for the advice though

 
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Hi Andreas,

How are you? And how is everything going on your land?

Myself and my partner, Maike, both 28, have had a few years experience in permaculture around the world, and briefly in Portugal, and are ready to take the big step (hopefully with help from the kind permaculture community) to buy land in Central Portugal, near Coimbra or Castelo Branco. We are looking for about 5 - 10 acres, with tree cover, a ruin to renovate and ideally some year round water source, like stream or spring - as we are looking to be pretty self-sufficient. Do you know of any land for sale with these characteristics near you or in the area?

We are coming to Portugal in June for a couple of weeks to get the ball rolling - with the idea to move permanently in early 2020. It would be great to meet some permies in the Coimbra or Castelo Branco area, if anyone is keen for a drink and to help us on this journey?

Just as a first question, before we buy land, what sort of documentation do we need to sort out, so that when we find the land we would like to buy, we are ready to go? Like how do we get our Fiscal Numbers? When we come in June, we would like to sort these things out, so is it possible to sort it out in a few days?

Thank you for any help, it would be much appreciated
And so looking forward to living close by to some of you!
 
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