Western Montana gardener and botanist in zone 6a according to 2012 zone update.
Gardening on lakebed sediments with 7 inch silty clay loam topsoil, 7 inch clay accumulation layer underneath, have added sand in places.
Western Montana gardener and botanist in zone 6a according to 2012 zone update.
Gardening on lakebed sediments with 7 inch silty clay loam topsoil, 7 inch clay accumulation layer underneath, have added sand in places.
Western Montana gardener and botanist in zone 6a according to 2012 zone update.
Gardening on lakebed sediments with 7 inch silty clay loam topsoil, 7 inch clay accumulation layer underneath, have added sand in places.
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Western Montana gardener and botanist in zone 6a according to 2012 zone update.
Gardening on lakebed sediments with 7 inch silty clay loam topsoil, 7 inch clay accumulation layer underneath, have added sand in places.
Western Montana gardener and botanist in zone 6a according to 2012 zone update.
Gardening on lakebed sediments with 7 inch silty clay loam topsoil, 7 inch clay accumulation layer underneath, have added sand in places.
Western Montana gardener and botanist in zone 6a according to 2012 zone update.
Gardening on lakebed sediments with 7 inch silty clay loam topsoil, 7 inch clay accumulation layer underneath, have added sand in places.
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David Livingston wrote:What does the fig leaf squash taste like and does it interbreed with the others?
Western Montana gardener and botanist in zone 6a according to 2012 zone update.
Gardening on lakebed sediments with 7 inch silty clay loam topsoil, 7 inch clay accumulation layer underneath, have added sand in places.
Joseph Lofthouse wrote:The mospermia is crazy making, looking like either parent, or somewhere in between!!! Or mix/match traits, and switched around.
Mixta peduncles are fat and round. Moschata peduncles are thin and 5 sided. The first few generations of mospermia tend towards fat and 5 sided. Based on the photo, the first shown here could be either mospermia or moschata. If the flesh is pale or whitish then it's mospermia, especially if the seeds lack a distinct margin. Or a segregant that went back to parental traits.... If the seeds have a distinct margin, and the flesh is deep orange, it's likely moschata. Is a photo available of this fruit still attached to the leaves?
The second photo has a classic mospermia fat 5-sided peduncle. A confirming trait would be if the cut end shrinks to about half size as it dries. Also, if that fruit is the same one shown earlier in the field, the leaves are classic mospermia leaves, with traits mid-way between species. Mospermia is tending towards white seeds. Pure mixta seeds tend towards brown in my population.
Western Montana gardener and botanist in zone 6a according to 2012 zone update.
Gardening on lakebed sediments with 7 inch silty clay loam topsoil, 7 inch clay accumulation layer underneath, have added sand in places.
Laurie Dyer wrote:I planted Joseph Lofthouse's maxima this year, can hardly wait to try it.
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Gardening on lakebed sediments with 7 inch silty clay loam topsoil, 7 inch clay accumulation layer underneath, have added sand in places.
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Joseph Lofthouse wrote:I've been eating landrace zucchini as winter squash this fall. I'm really enjoying them that way. Taking a bushel of them to farmer's market this weekend.
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Joseph Lofthouse wrote:I've been eating landrace zucchini as winter squash this fall. I'm really enjoying them that way. Taking a bushel of them to farmer's market this weekend.
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Joseph Lofthouse wrote:I've been eating landrace zucchini as winter squash this fall. I'm really enjoying them that way. Taking a bushel of them to farmer's market this weekend.
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Joseph Lofthouse wrote:
I recommend going to a "producer only" farmer's market, and source your seeds from there. Get fruits that appeal to you and taste them. Save seeds from any that you like.... That lets you know that at least one local grower was successful with the variety for at least one growing season. That's better than you can expect from a seed catalog.
I dislike the taste of Jack-o-Lantern, and anything related to it.
Buttercup is my favorite tasting squash. That's a wonderful place to start. Fruits can be a bit small for my preference.
Sweet meat is popular for taste, and decent sized.
Red Kuri is a commercial variety. Dreadful taste to me.
Hubbard is beloved, but at 40 to 60 pounds per fruit can be overwhelming.
Turks turban is most commonly sold as decorative, but flavor and size are nice.
Butternuts can be iffy. There are lots of commercial varieties that are insipid. Aim for skin that is dark tan rather than light tan, and for flesh that is orange rather than yellow.
I'm don't care much for pepo squash, but if I have to eat one, I prefer something like Acorn, Delicata, or Festival. I recommend avoiding spaghetti squash in a landrace.
Craig Dobbson wrote:When it comes to landrace squash, are there any exterior characteristics that you select against? and for what reason?
Sara Rosenberg wrote:I love seeing all the landrace items y'all post up. Here's my dilemma... the craptacular stuff grocery stores try to pawn off on customers has never been 1) enticing and 2) have any taste to them aka bland.
So I'd like to get my family into planting and eating squash as it is a great winter veggie. Can y'all recommend a few varieties to try out next year that are perhaps some fan favorites?
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Gardening on lakebed sediments with 7 inch silty clay loam topsoil, 7 inch clay accumulation layer underneath, have added sand in places.
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Craig Dobbson wrote:With the vine diameter... Is that because of insects like borers? I know a lot of folks like butternut because of the vine being so dense that the borers don't do well.
Sara Rosenberg wrote:really great suggestions William. I really appreciate it!
I figure i just haven't had the right squash yet. kinda like the first time I had sushi, and even the second time I had it... it was horrible... then I went to a place that knew their business and had quality ingredients. I'm kinda hoping that I'll stumble upon "the right squash" with the right direction from experts like y'all so many many thanks. My husband will appreciate it when new items that are good for him show up on the house menu AND taste great.
Western Montana gardener and botanist in zone 6a according to 2012 zone update.
Gardening on lakebed sediments with 7 inch silty clay loam topsoil, 7 inch clay accumulation layer underneath, have added sand in places.
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