Living in Anjou , France,
For the many not for the few
http://www.permies.com/t/80/31583/projects/Permie-Pennies-France#330873
Medicinal herbs, kitchen herbs, perennial edibles and berries: https://mountainherbs.net/ grown in the Blue Mountains, Australia
"Them that don't know him won't like him and them that do sometimes won't know how to take him... he ain't wrong, he's just different and his pride won't let him do the things that make you think he's right"
"The highest function of ecology is the understanding of consequences."
"Cultivate gratitude; hand out seed packets"
Cody DeBaun wrote:My dog certainly love raw meat! There's a company in my area that connects small organic farmers and ranchers to consumers that skirts all the health code red tape by marketing their grass fed and organic meat to pets.
Then again, my dogs get tested for worms and parasites regularly...
"Them that don't know him won't like him and them that do sometimes won't know how to take him... he ain't wrong, he's just different and his pride won't let him do the things that make you think he's right"
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein
"Them that don't know him won't like him and them that do sometimes won't know how to take him... he ain't wrong, he's just different and his pride won't let him do the things that make you think he's right"
With forty shades of green, it's hard to be blue.
Garg 'nuair dhùisgear! Virtutis Gloria Merces
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein
Chris Kott wrote:"Cooking" in acids is, I believe, how most ceviche are prepared. The acids do indeed alter the raw meat, but it isn't exactly the same. Both methods were originally used to make foods safer to eat for longer periods, but if there were, say, a parasite or bacteria that was killed by fire but not by the acids, it could pose problems.
-CK
"Them that don't know him won't like him and them that do sometimes won't know how to take him... he ain't wrong, he's just different and his pride won't let him do the things that make you think he's right"
Angelika Maier wrote:...but in total we should eat cooked food too or even mainly. It becomes much easier diegested. You are overstraining your digestion with too much raw food.
Xisca - pics! Dry subtropical Mediterranean - My project
However loud I tell it, this is never a truth, only my experience...
Wes Hunter wrote:To those who claim raw meat is easier to digest than cooked meat, how do you know? I'd assume that statement is based on how you feel afterwards, but is that an accurate measure of digestibility? Could there not be some other reason for this perception? ... I'm just curious.
Wes Hunter wrote:My understanding was that cooked foods are (as a rule, at least) easier to digest, which, so the argument goes, is why we humans have such large brains--our bodies are/were able to spend less energy toward digesting (raw) food, thus freeing up energy for more complex bodily operations.
Xisca - pics! Dry subtropical Mediterranean - My project
However loud I tell it, this is never a truth, only my experience...
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein
Xisca - pics! Dry subtropical Mediterranean - My project
However loud I tell it, this is never a truth, only my experience...
Cody DeBaun wrote:My dog certainly love raw meat! There's a company in my area that connects small organic farmers and ranchers to consumers that skirts all the health code red tape by marketing their grass fed and organic meat to pets.
Then again, my dogs get tested for worms and parasites regularly...
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A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein
Living a life that requires no vacation.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein
Living a life that requires no vacation.
Stacy Witscher wrote:Chris, typically tartare is hand chopped, little cubes, like 1/4 inch cubes. A classic tartare is beef with a little oil, lemon juice, minced shallots and herbs. We varied our tartare seasonally at one of the restaurants that I worked for. Tartare needs to be mixed immediately prior to eating or the lemon juice will start to "cook" the beef, so I had to mix and taste every order that went out, good stuff. Carpaccio is sliced paper thin - it's Italian in origin, often topped with similar ingredients to tartare.
I have Lebanese cousins who ate raw lamb kibbeh. They really enjoyed it, but one did get a parasite.
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Maureen Atsali
Wrong Way Farm - Kenya
Emil Spoerri wrote:
I posted a thread a little while after I started doing that, 6 years ago, here it is https://permies.com/t/9301/kitchen/Raw-diet
Also for those who are interested, we have a forum where we discuss this topic as the sole focus of the forum. http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/
Xisca - pics! Dry subtropical Mediterranean - My project
However loud I tell it, this is never a truth, only my experience...
Matt Walker wrote:"Zero carb", or a carnivore way of eating, has had a profound effect on my overall health. I have eaten only red meat for close to a year now, and as Maureen says, as time goes on it's more raw red meat than cooked. I still sear steaks and burgers, but they are pretty rare. Just thought I'd throw in some info. My opinion now is that eating plants is generally harmful to humans, but most can deal, although health suffers. Meat only is complete nutrition with none of the harmful compounds, fiber, and sugars found in plants. It's worth a try, I promise.
Xisca - pics! Dry subtropical Mediterranean - My project
However loud I tell it, this is never a truth, only my experience...
Matt Walker wrote:To be clear Xisca, I have always been surrounded by plant based eating as well. My views on nutrition have done a complete 180 in this past year. I'm so glad too, the overall effect of removing plants from my diet has been profound in many, many ways.
Xisca - pics! Dry subtropical Mediterranean - My project
However loud I tell it, this is never a truth, only my experience...
Xisca Nicolas wrote:
Matt Walker wrote:To be clear Xisca, I have always been surrounded by plant based eating as well. My views on nutrition have done a complete 180 in this past year. I'm so glad too, the overall effect of removing plants from my diet has been profound in many, many ways.
If you have any time and wish to say what triggered you for such a change? And the effect? It is very interesting for people to know in what case it makes a difference. Usually it is good for more parasympathetic people, or having a tendency to slow thyroid and metabolism, and a big need for protein and stimulation of HCl.
After a hair analysis, I was advised to get at least 40% of my calories from animal products. I had already made a try in my 20's, and loved it but it was too difficult. I very recently decided to give it a try again, so I jumped on this topic!
Living in the subtropics, I have just tried high fruits 2 years, and was still high in protein but with more goat cheese than meat, and it was not ok. 1 pound of raw beef per day is great! The guinea pig was good, but I will go on cooking the skin Ii think....
$10.00 is a donation. $1,000 is an investment, $1,000,000 is a purchase.
From the look of all this, perhaps the ability and the desire to eat all sorts of foods may be a great adaptation
"The highest function of ecology is the understanding of consequences."
"Cultivate gratitude; hand out seed packets"
Cécile Stelzer Johnson wrote:we were created as omnivores. My hubby swears by meat while my system rebels and plugs when I eat nothing but meat, even for a meal or two. While most folks feel that sugars are a big no-no, I feed that I tolerate a lot more sugar than most, and quite well: It would send most pre-diabetics into a coma. Salads and fruit give me the least trouble and I can eat breads and pasta,
. In other words, do they feel well or not well because of the food, or because they think the food they ate was in the no-no category and they expect to feel under the weather? .
Cody DeBaun wrote:My partner is a vegan, full stop. She's also an avid runner, with a deep and abiding love of carbs. If I try and eat the same, I put on weight faster than a man carrying buckets through a thunderstorm, my sinuses pack overnight and I'm tired and inflamed dawn til dusk. I eat a diet much closer to keto/paleo, and find that the more meat and vegetable I eat, the happier and healthier I am. The only thing we really agree on food wise is dairy (none in our house.)
Xisca - pics! Dry subtropical Mediterranean - My project
However loud I tell it, this is never a truth, only my experience...
Maureen Atsali
Wrong Way Farm - Kenya
Paper jam tastes about as you would expect. Try some on this tiny ad:
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