"Them that don't know him won't like him and them that do sometimes won't know how to take him... he ain't wrong, he's just different and his pride won't let him do the things that make you think he's right"
"Them that don't know him won't like him and them that do sometimes won't know how to take him... he ain't wrong, he's just different and his pride won't let him do the things that make you think he's right"
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Until recently, the relationship of Passenger Pigeon with respect to other pigeon species has been simply speculation based on gross plumage characteristics. However, recent genetic data published in 2010 by Johnson and colleagues (Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution 57:455) show that, despite the gross similarity in appearance to mourning doves and its relatives (the genus Zenaida), the Passenger Pigeon is not closely related to this group of pigeons at all. In fact, its closest relatives are a group of large-bodied pigeons from the New World in the genus Patagioenas, which includes the western Band-tailed Pigeon among others. Even so, scientists believe that Passenger Pigeon is still different enough from other extant pigeons to remain in its unique genus, Ectopistes. Based on an analysis of the evolutionary tree constructed from genetic data, Johnson and colleagues (2010) hypothesized that eons ago an Asian cuckoo dove crossed into North America and provided the ancestor to both Ectopistes and Patagioenas.
"Them that don't know him won't like him and them that do sometimes won't know how to take him... he ain't wrong, he's just different and his pride won't let him do the things that make you think he's right"
Skandi Rogers wrote:Pigeons in the UK are the biggest agricultural pest. Not the type you see in towns which are descended from rock pigeons and probably consist of tame pigeons who have gone feral and bred but the wood pigeon, If you try to grow any brassica over winter you will have to net them to stop the pigeons getting at them if you don't you will get nothing but sticks. The reason for them being such a huge pest is their ability to breed year round as they produce "milk" for their young, and what allows them to do that in such numbers as they do now is overwintering crops such as rape. Each county to itself but I personally would not keep pigeons anywhere near my garden as I prefer not to have bird netting over everything. They do at least taste nice, but for the amount of meat on them and the price of a shotgun cartridge, it's not worth it.
"Them that don't know him won't like him and them that do sometimes won't know how to take him... he ain't wrong, he's just different and his pride won't let him do the things that make you think he's right"
Wj Carroll wrote:
Skandi Rogers wrote:Pigeons in the UK are the biggest agricultural pest. Not the type you see in towns which are descended from rock pigeons and probably consist of tame pigeons who have gone feral and bred but the wood pigeon, If you try to grow any brassica over winter you will have to net them to stop the pigeons getting at them if you don't you will get nothing but sticks. The reason for them being such a huge pest is their ability to breed year round as they produce "milk" for their young, and what allows them to do that in such numbers as they do now is overwintering crops such as rape. Each county to itself but I personally would not keep pigeons anywhere near my garden as I prefer not to have bird netting over everything. They do at least taste nice, but for the amount of meat on them and the price of a shotgun cartridge, it's not worth it.
I use an air rifle - Hatsan Striker in .22, with a good scope.... pellets cost around $10 for 500. That is my go to for all small game. I have a great old Crosman in .177, too. But the Hatsan has all but replaced my standard .22 rifle for anything around 50 yards. It is so quiet and accurate that I can pick them off of a roof or a power line, several in a row, without spooking the flock. The pellets do very little damage, so you get more meat.
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Living in Anjou , France,
For the many not for the few
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yet another victim of Obsessive Weeding Disorder
Maureen Atsali
Wrong Way Farm - Kenya
yet another victim of Obsessive Weeding Disorder
This is all just my opinion based on a flawed memory
"Also, just as you want men to do to you, do the same way to them" (Luke 6:31)
"Them that don't know him won't like him and them that do sometimes won't know how to take him... he ain't wrong, he's just different and his pride won't let him do the things that make you think he's right"
Ben Zumeta wrote:Great thoughts here, and considering that human population is going to be constrained by a massive imminent phosphorus shortage,
yet another victim of Obsessive Weeding Disorder
Joe Grand wrote:My brother in Law had a breed of pigeons with big breast like Cornish hens, but he would butcher them before the took flight.
I do not have the breeds name, but would like to have same when I retire.
Living in Anjou , France,
For the many not for the few
http://www.permies.com/t/80/31583/projects/Permie-Pennies-France#330873
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yet another victim of Obsessive Weeding Disorder
"Them that don't know him won't like him and them that do sometimes won't know how to take him... he ain't wrong, he's just different and his pride won't let him do the things that make you think he's right"
This is all just my opinion based on a flawed memory
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"Them that don't know him won't like him and them that do sometimes won't know how to take him... he ain't wrong, he's just different and his pride won't let him do the things that make you think he's right"
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