• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Nancy Reading
  • Carla Burke
  • r ranson
  • John F Dean
  • paul wheaton
  • Pearl Sutton
stewards:
  • Jay Angler
  • Liv Smith
  • Leigh Tate
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
  • Timothy Norton
gardeners:
  • thomas rubino
  • Jeremy VanGelder
  • Maieshe Ljin

Are organic seed potatoes necessary?

 
steward
Posts: 21553
Location: Pacific Northwest
12040
11
hugelkultur kids cat duck forest garden foraging fiber arts sheep wood heat homestead
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I've noticed that, um, organic seed potatoes are quite expensive. My local farm co-op sells certified (non-organic) seed potatoes for $1-2/pound, and Trader Joes sells organic (non-seed) potatoes for $2/pound. Organic seed potatoes are something like $6+ dollars for maybe 8 tiny potatoes. Is it necessary to use organic seed potatoes? If conventional seed poatoes are grown organically, are they inferior or equal to potatoes grown organically from organic seed potatoes?

Thanks!
 
author & steward
Posts: 7150
Location: Cache Valley, zone 4b, Irrigated, 9" rain in badlands.
3340
  • Likes 5
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

The marketing meme, is that "certified potato sets" are free of various viral diseases, well, at least 95% free.... And in many jurisdictions, certified potato sets are inspected for diseases during the growing season, and/or tested for diseases before being sold. I suspect that many potato producers grow for the grocery stores using certified potato sets, so they might only be one year away from certified "virus-free" origins. They might have picked up some viruses, but if they had picked up too many, the farmers wouldn't have many potatoes to sell. I have planted a lot of grocery store potatoes, and they have grown great for me.

Supposing that we take all the toxic gick contained in a non-organic potato set, and transfer it 100%  into the new tubers, without any decomposition during the growing season. That might create around a hundred fold dilution of the toxicity. A more realistic scenario, is that the toxic gick gets spread across the whole plant, including the non-harvested stems and roots, and it gets diluted into the soil as the seed tuber rots away, and the toxic gick gets decomposed by the plant, microbes, sunlight, and weather. So the actual dilution might be closer to 10,000 times. I don't know what your tolerance for toxic gick is, but that's good enough for me.





 
Nicole Alderman
steward
Posts: 21553
Location: Pacific Northwest
12040
11
hugelkultur kids cat duck forest garden foraging fiber arts sheep wood heat homestead
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
That's really good to hear! I'm thinking I'll get some red and purple conventional seed potatoes from the farm co-op, and then buy some organic Yukon potatoes from Trader Joes and call it good!
 
pollinator
Posts: 4328
Location: Anjou ,France
258
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
or you could go and buy normal organic  potatoes and just pick the little ones

David  
 
Posts: 22
7
books wofati bee
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
The most completely bonkers potato plant on my hugel mound came from an ordinary bag of grocery store spuds. Since it was grown without pesticides or fertilizers, it is totally organic.
 
expectation is the root of all heartache - shakespeare. tiny ad:
A rocket mass heater heats your home with one tenth the wood of a conventional wood stove
http://woodheat.net
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic