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Inge Leonora-den Ouden wrote:Interesting to see avocados can grow even as far North as Brittany. But I am even a little more to the North. I keep my avocado indoors (already for about 5 years).
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Philip Heinemeyer wrote:We had quite a hard freeze in early january. This is how my outdoor mexicola looks now.
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London is: 51.5° N; Hardiness Zone 9; Heat Zone 3; 24 inches of rain a year
As I gazed upon those light green leaves tinged with yellow streaks, a signature of the Duke tree, I knew that my work on this venture had not been in vain.
London is: 51.5° N; Hardiness Zone 9; Heat Zone 3; 24 inches of rain a year
London is: 51.5° N; Hardiness Zone 9; Heat Zone 3; 24 inches of rain a year
Henry Jabel wrote:I hope I am wrong because as I am in the crazy club too as I have a mexicola grande, poncho and something I suspect is fairly cold hardy that I grew from seed. The video I posted earlier in the thread shows a guy growing in Kent in South East England, his did survive in the cold one year now I am trying to recall if one of the previous summers was one of the hot ones we had.
London is: 51.5° N; Hardiness Zone 9; Heat Zone 3; 24 inches of rain a year
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Henry Jabel wrote: If we have a bad summer like 2012 (where we only really had the two weeks of the Olympics were on and it pretty much rained continuously after) followed by a beast from the east scenario will they survive? I would assume from the age of that London tree perhaps it is possible.
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Henry Jabel wrote:Do you know if the fruit that overwinters are still good to eat or do they typically go mouldy?
London is: 51.5° N; Hardiness Zone 9; Heat Zone 3; 24 inches of rain a year
Henry Jabel wrote:The two named varieties are inside as they are small. I actually bought them off the guy in the video
London is: 51.5° N; Hardiness Zone 9; Heat Zone 3; 24 inches of rain a year
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Alcina Pinata wrote:
Henry Jabel wrote:The two named varieties are inside as they are small. I actually bought them off the guy in the video
Ah...I remember from his channel he got Mexicola Grande and Poncho seeds sent over from a Texas avocado enthusiast Jerry Satterlee. Are yours seedlings? Jerry does about 5 YouTube videos a year, always the same: one at flowering in March, one as the fruit sets, one as the fruit matures and one when the fruit is picked. He often does another random one as well. They're just him walking round his garden filming the trees, so you get to see the changes every year. They're great fun, he clearly loves his trees. All his avocados are cold hardy grafted plants: Mexicola Grande, Poncho, Fuerte, Opal (aka Lila), Pryor (aka Fantastic or Del Rio) - those are the ones I remember now, he may have more. This last year he talks about and films a young seedling of his from an Opal fruit (not to be confused with Opal Fruitssorry only oldies like me will get that!) which flowered and fruited at just 4.5 years old! But the fruit was largely seed so he was a little disappointed. He doesn't seem to prune his trees and just lets them grow, which therefore means harvesting all the fruit is impossible because the trees are too tall. He says not to put the trees into the ground until they have brown bark. Where he is in Texas has not dissimilar winter temperatures and durations as London, but of course his summers are much hotter and longer. But he needs to grow the cold hardy varieties to survive the winter lows.
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Philip Heinemeyer wrote:Whether the trees inherit the semi-dwarf growth pattern and what the fruit will be like should they ever make some is an entirely different question, however. Also, were they pollinated by another variety growing close by?
And how much selection was done to find these cold-hardy varieties? In other words, trees grown from seed of known cold-hardy varieties may not inherit their cold tolerance.
London is: 51.5° N; Hardiness Zone 9; Heat Zone 3; 24 inches of rain a year
Henry Jabel wrote:Yes mine are seedlings so I would assume they would be from Jerry's trees, i shall have to check out his videos now! You are welcome to some graft wood (or seeds eventually!) when they get bigger. I am going to have to prune and train them anyway as I have overhead electrical cables here and looking at the London tree they still get pretty large here!
London is: 51.5° N; Hardiness Zone 9; Heat Zone 3; 24 inches of rain a year
London is: 51.5° N; Hardiness Zone 9; Heat Zone 3; 24 inches of rain a year
Philip Heinemeyer wrote:Hello,
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Avocado-Lila-Cold-Hardy-Variety-3-seeds/224158482421?hash=item3430e2fff5:g:k8cAAOSw0BlfjiKd
If you create an ebay account you can contact the seller, maybe even without an account, i am not sure.
Mike Guye wrote:My oldest avocado tree, growing here on my coastal allotment plot in the UK: https://imgur.com/a/5gflnlU
Our 'Beast from the East' reached its coldest last winter, here in St Leonards-on-Sea, on the 8th January 2021 at 1 a.m: minus 3.9 degrees C at 1.3 metres height from soil level.
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