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Persimmon hardiness

 
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How hardy are american persimmon i have some seeds and would love to grow them ...i find they are a high value plant for me for the late fruit. I have looked at several sources and they all have different descriptions of how hardy these trees really are.so if anybody in a northern cold climate can give me a success story i would love to hear it
 
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I'm not in a northern state, but I did send persimmon seeds to someone in one of the border states (I forget which one) and he is growing them. This is the USDA plant database for persimmons (Diospyros virginiana). https://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=divi5 The thing about these maps though is that frequently they will show nothing in an area where the plant obviously DOES grow. I would say there is a very good chance they will grow in USDA zone 2 at least. If I were you, I would try them in a sunny, protected place and see what happens. You really have nothing to lose by experimenting. I would not attempt to grow them in pots, however, because they have an incredibly deep taproot.
 
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Thankyou this is reassuring. I actually live in northern Ontario and it may seem like a live in some snowy wasteland filled with conifers but the the temperature isn't actually much different the coldest it gets where i live exactly matches the averages of northern Nebraska strangely enough the amount of climatic change here in Ontario gives a diverse range of zones to grow lots of awesome food. I really love these trees and I've been obsessed with growing them here ...you don't see much here it would be a culture shock to see a guy with a persimmon instead of a apple tree lol i think growing food would be less of a niche if people could really see the potential that northern climates have to offer. Maybe it would create more independence if people knew what they can grow. Thanks again i will experiment and see what happens i have shelter from north eastern winds and a good south west exposure ...in the fall ill mulch heavy and pile snow on in winter to insulate.
 
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There is a nursery that sells persimmons in Southern Ontario, Grimes Nursery.  I think they are fairly common there.

I would ask them.

Northern Ontario always makes me think of the Neil Young song "Helpless".

"There is a town in North Ontario..............."

John S
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Lol northbay along with many others the rest is pretty helpless
 
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