Win a copy of Permaculture Design Companion this week in the Permaculture Design forum!
  • Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education experiences global resources the cider press projects digital market permies.com private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Nicole Alderman
  • r ranson
  • Anne Miller
  • paul wheaton
stewards:
  • Jocelyn Campbell
  • Mike Jay Haasl
  • Burra Maluca
garden masters:
  • James Freyr
  • Joylynn Hardesty
  • Steve Thorn
  • Greg Martin
gardeners:
  • Carla Burke
  • Dave Burton
  • Pearl Sutton

Something is invading my worm farm

 
Posts: 2
Location: Central Kentucky
duck bee woodworking
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
My red wrigglers were doing ok until I added some leaves as bedding. This introduced a strange little white bug (about 1/16 of an inch long) that is multiplying to the point where they are literally taking over.

Just wondering if anyone knows what they are? Pic below
4C93B379-0B95-41CE-8E0F-6B5AA6C4E518.jpeg
[Thumbnail for 4C93B379-0B95-41CE-8E0F-6B5AA6C4E518.jpeg]
 
gardener
Posts: 6251
Location: Vilonia, Arkansas - Zone 7B/8A stoney, sandy loam soil pH 6.5
1012
hugelkultur dog forest garden duck fish fungi hunting books chicken writing homestead
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Termites!  Those are definitely termites.  
 
steward
Posts: 2719
Location: Maine (zone 5)
564
hugelkultur goat dog forest garden trees rabbit chicken food preservation
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Does DE work on termites?  
 
Posts: 81
Location: Indiana
6
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
They look like springtails to me.  Hard to be sure.  Any closer shots?
If they are springtails, then it is a common critter in your worm farm.
If it's a termite, then you've got other issues - sorry.
 
Bryant RedHawk
gardener
Posts: 6251
Location: Vilonia, Arkansas - Zone 7B/8A stoney, sandy loam soil pH 6.5
1012
hugelkultur dog forest garden duck fish fungi hunting books chicken writing homestead
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
DE will work on termites as long as the DE is dry, (this is true of any DE application, once wet it is far less effective for critter control).

Those are not springtails, they have brown jaw structures and springtails don't, plus springtails have their tail cocked most all the time, those don't have the correct structure (tail).

Ants and Termites have been known to kill worms and eat them (mostly ants do this but I have seen termites attack a worm that went to the wrong place on my farm).
 
Keith Odell
Posts: 81
Location: Indiana
6
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Very well could be, I appreciate Redhawk's contributions very much.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/burtonandy/3719126970

These appear to be the same.  Termites look to have a waist.  I don't see a waist on Adam's picture.

I would hate for Adam to go to extreme measures wiping out springtails that he mistook for termites.
 
Bryant RedHawk
gardener
Posts: 6251
Location: Vilonia, Arkansas - Zone 7B/8A stoney, sandy loam soil pH 6.5
1012
hugelkultur dog forest garden duck fish fungi hunting books chicken writing homestead
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator


This is a spring tail, note long antennae on this species.  

I've gone through about 150 photos of springtails today to make sure we get the ID right.
I agree with you Keith we don't want to get this one wrong.

This is another species: All springtails have longer antennae that what the OP's photo seems to have. Hopefully he can use our photos to compare and make his own decision.
 
Posts: 113
Location: Pennsylvania, Dauphin County
4
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I liked to add predatory nematodes to my worm bins.  It helps keep pest in check and does not hurt the worms.
 
Adam Morley
Posts: 2
Location: Central Kentucky
duck bee woodworking
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Thank you all for your input, I’m pretty sure they’re springtails. Had never heard of them, let alone the predatory nematodes!
 
You can't have everything. Where would you put it?
Dave Burton's Boot Adventures at Wheaton Labs and Basecamp
https://permies.com/t/119676/permaculture-projects/Dave-Burton-Boot-Adventures-Wheaton
  • Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
Boost this thread!