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What is the Difference Between a Fruit and a Vegetable?  RSS feed

 
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Some vegetables that we eat are really fruit.  An example is the tomato.  It is commonly used as a vegetable.

So what is the difference between a fruit and a vegetable.

Can you tell me the names of other fruit that are usually used like a vegetable?
 
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The difference depends on what criteria you are using to evaluate, botanical, culinary or nutritional. Roughly, botanically, fruit contains seeds and isn't something else. Culinary, if I'm remembering correctly, a fruit is primarily consumed as a snack or dessert. That's a very old definition. And nutritionally, a potato, although obviously a vegetable, is eaten as a starch, like a grain. And then there is weird stuff like avocado and peanuts.
 
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This is a pet thing of mine and I refuse to answer it any more.

If anyone tries to bring it up I tend to go make myself a nice salad.

Tomato, cucumber, sweet peppers and olives usually do the trick.

Then a rhubarb crumble to really piss them off.
 
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Everything but the botanical definitions are largely subjective. If it has seeds, it's a fruit.

The culinary and nutritional perspectives have a lot of overlap, but what food items you choose, in my opinion, should have more to do with taste combinations and nutrition than whether or not they have seeds.

The correct answer is, if it has seeds, it's a fruit. I don't see why this is difficult for anyone, unless they're trying to make sweeping generalisations about fruit.

-CK

EDIT: Oh, and avocados aren't wierd, nor are peanuts. Avocados are clearly berries (drupes), and peanuts are legumes, as they grow in a pod (shell), and while not always, most varieties have multiple nuts in one pod. (I know, it's not clear, per se, but it is accurate).
 
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I thought this would be an interesting question with interesting replies. 

Thanks everyone for sharing.


Things like apples, oranges and berries are easy to figure out that they are fruit even though they do go well with vegetables in different ways. I really like salad with fruit in it.

Avocados and peanuts are interesting and I never thought of them.  I would guess avocado is a fruit used like a vegetable.


What about squash, zucchini, cucumbers and eggplant?


Here is a video about the differences:



 
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And then there is European law that dictates how much fruit must be used to make jam.  And, therefore, that a carrot is a fruit because carrot jam is awesome and couldn't possibly be legislated against.

Here's a link - Carrot Jam

And no way do I accept that peanuts are fruit.  Just no...
 
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...which is why peanuts are legumes.

-CK
 
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