He called it his Shaman's Garden and the path had to be traveled in one direction. I do hope that with some work with my gray matter I can recall more specifics about how it was set up. It was a very long time ago. I do remember that it was around 40 feet wide and perhaps 60 to 80 feet long. There was a path at the lower end that went straight across the bottom but access to the garden began in the lowest point furthest away from his home and wound hill a gentle slope with a 180 turn at the top and back down much like an elongated M exiting nearest his house. "When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
There were dozens of areas "out in the woods" around my hometown where "huckleberries" could be found."When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
oracle wrote:
Nice story. Arthur seemed like a cool guy, a bit ahead of his time, in terms of gardening technique.
I spoke with my older sister earlier this evening and she reminded me that he had us retell the stories of his people back to him so we could remember that history that was never written down. Sadly I only remember bits and pieces of those days. "When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
oracle wrote:
Nice story. Arthur seemed like a cool guy, a bit ahead of his time, in terms of gardening technique.
Willy_K wrote:
That's very interesting, Dave. If he was in his 80's in the 1950s then he would have been born in the 1870s, which makes this story all the more fascinating. I am curious to know more about him. My family is from the upstate NY area too (between the PA border and Buffalo). If you recall any more details about this garden please share them.
Oracle, you should know that Arthur Hodges was not ahead of his time, he was practicing an ancient method, as Mekka P points out. It is us who are behind the times... and struggling to catch up!
"When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
Willy_K wrote:
Dave, I grew up in Erie, though I haven't lived there for over twenty years. When I was a boy I often wondered about the Eriez people, also called the Cat People, who were the indigenous tribe of that region and who were wiped out, not by whites but by the Iroquois nation, apparently, before whites even arrived in that area. Some stories said that they were all killed but other say that they migrated southward. In fact my brother ended up marrying a girl who has a full-blooded Catawba (Carolinas region) grandparent. The Catawba believe that they came from the southern shore of Lake Erie, which if true would mean that my nephew, my brother's son, is the only member of our family to actually be "from" Erie. But there were supposedly one or two Eriez still around at the dawn of the 20th century, and I am very curious to know if Arthur Hodges might have been one of them, or if (as is more likely, given the location of your town) he was a Seneca.
"When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
Brenda
Bloom where you are planted.
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Brenda Groth wrote:
there is a history of Algonquin in MIchigan, but I'm not really familiar with it..areas named after them around the state.
"When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
"When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
"When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
Mekka Pakanohida wrote:
I disagree, it sounds more like he maintained the way the North East used to be, prior to Euro-centric invasion / expansion. I cite the 1st chapter of 'Edible Food Forests, Chapter 1.'

John Polk wrote:
The tribe in general was responsible for growing food. The Shaman was responsible for the medicinal plants in particular. It is a pity that "we" tried to teach them, rather than learning from them. Since they had no written language, and "we" did all we could to disband them, and force their assimilation, much of that knowledge is forever lost. Many useful plants are no longer cultivated, due to our arrogance.
"When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
john giroux wrote:
This is the kind of post that makes me wonder just how much information or wisdom we as a society have lost due to the "modernization" of our food culivation. Awesome post. I grew up in binghamton, ny a block.away from the suasquannah river. I'm sure you wish you could remember more of your conversations.
"When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
I haven't had one in Binghamton in a long time but I have been making my version of that marinade since the early 70's. I especially like using it with goat. I rarely eat bread and only if it is "real" sourdough. If flour isn't acidified for more than 6 hours before baking I won't eat it. 12 hours is even better. I also have blood glucose issues so I am careful with any carb consumption. I stopped using grains except for rye and eating that is rare. I never liked Brozzetti's pizza. I liked NYC style pie. That might be called pizza but is something else. I am not sure what but not what I call pizza. "When there is no life in the soil it is just dirt."
"MagicDave"
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