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podcast 421 - Stink - Part 2

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Credit: Eric Tolbert

Length: 53 minutes

Paul Wheaton and  Jocelyn Campbell continue their review of the movie Stink, a documentary by Jon Whelan, about chemicals and toxins that are in consumer products.

The movie points out there are approximately 80,000 chemicals that are in products we use and there is no regulation to  test to see if combinations of the chemicals are toxic. The FDA only relies on information provided to them by the manufacturers.

Jocelyn points out there is a false sense of security in America that this documentary attempts to dispel, that things being sold are being regulated and are safe. The filmmaker points out that the Toxic Substances Control Act actually allowed manufactures to avoid disclosing what chemicals are in manufactured products, in essence having exactly the exact opposite of the intended legislation.

The question was asked in the documentary how many chemicals are actually illegal out of the 80,000 currently used to in the US in manufacture of various products? The answer was actually only 10 in the US and 1,200 in Europe.  The movie points out the FEMA trailers deployed during hurricane Katrina that were making people ill were manufactured in China and used a lesser set of standards for the USA instead of the higher standards than required in China or Europe.  America seems to becoming a toxic dumping ground for all kinds of things because policies and regulations in the US are less stringent than in Europe and China.

Jocelyn discusses the ingredients in PAM cooking spray, including butane and propane, two things she is not interested in consuming.  Paul and Jocelyn discuss the "everything causes cancer now days" attitude that seems to prevail and how to Paul it seems that "just get the cancer and die" is what we are expected to get used to.

There is a segment in the move that Jocelyn and Paul find ironic and hypocritical. It appears that the Susan G. Komen cancer foundation was selling a perfume to raise funds to support breast cancer that was full of toxic chemicals. The justification for the perfume containing toxins was that selling it would raise lots of money for breast cancer research.

The movie discusses how California has passed legislation that requires more accurate labeling on products and Jocelyn points out that Coca Cola changed their formula so they would not have to change their label in California to reflect that some of their ingredients contained carcinogens.

Paul discusses the reduction of chemicals that they are attempting at Wheaton Labs. They require Organic or better food at the Lab and are working at producing more food themselves. Wheaton labs use natural cleaners and minimize any type of chemicals at the lab as much as possible.

Paul briefly discusses a earlier podcast where they reviewed the documentary Chemerical - Redefining Clean for a New Generation.  Paul's preferred cleaning methods are clean it up as soon as possible, try water first and hot water if that is not working well. Only use more powerful cleaners as a last resort and make sure they are as natural as possible. Jocelyn points out it really doesn't take longer or any more effort to use more natural cleaning products than it does to use chemical laden products.

The documentary points out ways to reduce toxins in your life, including making better personal choices and choosing companies that are more ethical and transparent in listing their ingredients. Jocelyn brings up the that children's toxic loads tend to be 5 times higher than adults because of their higher metabolisms, which is something the documentary does not really explore.

Paul overall finds the movie to be well done, powerful and easy to access. The bottom line for both is you can reduce toxins and chemicals in your life and you can slowly remove petroleum based products, including your "fire-based" clothing. Consider going Pool-Less (removing shampoos and soaps from your life).

Paul and Jocelyn wrap up the podcast with a discussion of local and cultural beauty standards.

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Stink the Movie: https://stinkmovie.com/
Chemerical Podcast: https://permies.com/wiki/28744/Podcast-Review-Chemerical
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I had a glitch where the titles were saying "podcast 420 - stink - part2" I just fixed that.

It might appear in your podcast feed twice.  Opps!
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Thanks, Bill, for ALL of your help with the podcasts! I'm sure folks can cope with a little glitch.

Here's the no make-up thread I mentioned, and it was Alicia Keys who made the news by going without make-up!

And I just posted about an article that refers to and gives even more examples like the movie Stink. Though since it's a cider press toxic gick topic, I've posted about it here.

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