Mike Jay wrote:I would guess that walnuts, butternuts, hazelnuts, cherries, apples and chestnuts would do fine. You might want to search for Edible Acres and Twisted Tree nursery. They're both permaculture nurseries in upstate NY. If they can grow it, you should be able to as well.
I think western NY might be closer to a zone 6 or 5. Might want to double check so you have the right number when shopping for possible trees/shrubs.
It looks like the southern edge of your lot has fields to the south of it. That would be a great place to focus on for things that may need more sun.
Is there any water on the site? Or major elevation changes? Those could be design features to work with.
Unless you need the dead wood for something, I'd be tempted to leave it up for the wild critters. Clearing brush could be good or bad. Around me the "brush" is often shrubs that have berries on them.
Keep in mind deer nibbling pressure when you plant new stuff...
Mike Barkley wrote:600 year chestnut project
If the neighbors would not give permission to hunt on their property I would be tempted to make a small pond & plant some turnips & other deer friendly food away from the people foods. NW corner looks promising.
Mike Jay wrote:I think the permaculture way would be to get a few hundred chestnut seeds, possibly of preferred parentage, and plant them like a squirrel would. 2-3" deep. Ideally in the fall since they probably need a cold stratification period. If you get some this winter and the ground's frozen, you could probably give them that cold stratification in a rodent protected cold place this winter and plant in the spring. If you flag the spots where you plant them, you can watch for sprouts and protect the ones that start to grow from the nibblers. I'd be tempted to plant 10 in a spot. When they get 10' tall consider thinning them down to one at that point. Plus if you have something squirrel proof (maybe a milk crate) you could put that over some of the clusters until they sprout. No sense protecting all of them, just do some to see if it matters.
I'm sure there are better ways but that's what comes to mind
S Bengi wrote:If money and tools are available.
I think clear cutting all 3 acres and planting 300 trees at 20ft centers.
Dutch clover and mint+onion family cover crop would be awesome, maybe 300 adlers ($2/each) between all of those 300 fruit/nut plants.
All that extra adler will up the nitrogen fixing function of the land. you can cull them once they start shading out the "food species"
If possible a 1/4 acre pond could be done too, digg out the hole (10ft+deep ) and then in year two or later get some pond liner or seal it naturally with pigs/ducks/etc.
I would also add 3+ bee hive too.
Grab the bee hive starter, shake it out onto the empty bee hive.
Cover it back up and that is it. Never harvest it.
But maybe in 2 years, you will learn how to harvest honey, but at least it will already be there waiting for you.
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