Jocelyn Campbell

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Jocelyn's life is all about balance. Maybe that's why she's an accountant and is such an advocate for keeping our natural systems healthy.
As a child, she perched on branches, collected moss and fungus, caught frogs and snakes, and climbed up into swaying tree forts in her beloved Pacific Northwest woods. Then, as a teenager, she learned that reining in sugar kept her more alert and energetic. These youthful observations grew into passions for walks in the woods, gardening, herbal remedies, and natural parenting with whole and traditional foods. More recently, Jocelyn's interest in the natural and healthy led to all things permaculture and she completed her first permaculture design course in 2010.
Jocelyn enjoys helping 1- and 2- person micro-businesses spend less time on their bookkeeping, or putting on feast nights at wheaton labs (the permaculture community where she lives with her guy, Paul Wheaton), or helping achieve further world domination for the richsoil.com/permies.com empire.
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Hm, per Paul's offline comment, I think the only place where I mentioned "bacterio sapien"  is after hearing that term in the Farmageddon documentary (and here is the podcast review link).

I know we've talked about using salt only on butcher blocks, or to clean some things to discourage bad bacteria and encourage good bacteria, though not a specific thread that I could find. Just a mention here or there buried in other information.


21 minutes ago
Some of the things we might hire you for at wheaton labs could be a Commerce badge bit - see https://permies.com/wiki/108329/PEP-Badge-Commerce for more info.
21 hours ago

Daron Williams wrote:For the teaching part... does creating and selling an online course about permaculture or a permaculture topic count?


Bumping for Daron's question.
21 hours ago
As I was e-mailing our current residents about this thread, I wrote some additional clarifications.

Jocelyn Campbell wrote:
COIN-13: Producing food for wheaton labs in 2020. I have a BIG list of food basics (produce, eggs, chickens are all possible) that we are not yet growing ourselves and will likely not yet be growing in 2020. This could be any where from $2,000 to $10,000 per year if someone wanted to get some serious food production up and running. I tried to sign up for a local organic (actually Montana Homegrown standard which is better than organic) CSA this year (2019) and they were sold out. So I imagine there could be additional market for your food production beside wheaton labs.


The food production for wheaton labs might shift to being provided by the bootcamp, during bootcamp hours, but we're still building soil, fencing, and infrastructure, and facilitating workshops/learning, etc., so it could be that we won't be producing much food through the bootcamp for another year at least, if not a couple years.

Jocelyn Campbell wrote:COIN-6: Help with rentals - Coco and I are still optimizing our systems for this, but once we have a busier schedule, we could certainly use (and have paid residents) for cleaning / changeover help with rentals.

COIN-11: Help with events - again, we're still optimizing, and there are things we need to have in place, but we would certainly love to pay for help, or even a COOK for some (or eventually many?) events!


As always, we'd much rather pay a resident here than anyone else. The only exception being that we don't hire boots (or residents) to clean common areas that boots (or residents) use. Boots and residents are expected to clean up after themselves and help keep common areas clean and tidy.

We have and do pay boots or residents to clean and help with rental spaces, or with Paul's and my personal space. The bootcamp is often deployed to help with events as part of bootcamp hours/service, though we envision some of the events paying for evening or weekend help in the future.

For any of these side jobs, the bootcamp schedule comes first, and these other things are for evenings or weekends.
23 hours ago

Jocelyn Campbell wrote:
A word about a few that Paul mentioned in the boots thread.

COIN-1: Jocelyn bounties. These have been anything from installing our weather station, to building a planter box, to selling stuff on eBay and there are lots more random things such as clothes mending, handyman/woman type items on the list.


OHHH! Something I'm saving up for and would love to offer a bounty for is a beautiful, new dining room table. It would be to replace our beleaguered table in the Fisher Price House (FPH) with something that is more like a lovely hardwood slab with a live edge.



It's hard to see the table under all the people and food in this slightly blurry pic (and an old view of the kitchen), but it its BIG and we'd love something the same dimensions so that four people could easily fit on each long side.

Here's a better view of the table and the kitchen as it is now from the opposite angle (by Coco):



There are some easy, modest means (as in humble amounts of money) ways to earn money to pay some of your own personal expenses while at wheaton labs. And I think there is the potential to level up your entrepreneurship to some decent coin as well.

We have a variety of residents here at wheaton labs beside Paul, myself and Fred:  ants (those who rent an ant village plot), boots (those in the permaculture bootcamp), workshop attendees, short-term rentals, and we'd love additional long-term renters/residents (not necessarily in ant village) as well.



Here is the list of money making opportunities that Paul wrote about on our bootcamp page:

a little jingle in your pocket

COIN-1: After a few weeks (once fred thinks you can do stuff on your own), talk to Jocelyn about some bounties for coin.  She has several little projects she is willing to pay for.   A person could earn about $100 to $200 per month on evenings and weekends.

COIN-2: Several boots have harvested hundreds of dollars by posting pics and videos of theirs experiences here in the BRK program.

COIN-3: And if there is a special tool or bit of warm clothes you would like to have, the gapper love and ant love programs have proven to be quite generous.

COIN-4: When people need a ride to and from the airport a person with a rig could harvest pick-up and drop-off bounties.  (Normally $35 one way during normal hours and $55 for crazy hours)

COIN-5: When a boot is here long enough, they can harvest some coin giving tours.

COIN-6: Sometimes we have a rush and there is a need for people to help with rentals - and that pays money!

COIN-7: Some ants and deep roots people have paid for help with their plots - building and gardening.

COIN-8: We have a neighbor that sometimes needs some construction help and has paid for that on evenings and weekends.

COIN-9: Some residents in the past have set up patreon accounts and made a few hundred bucks a month posting videos and pics.  

COIN-10: When you have a plot to play with, you can build a fence and some gardens and a structure.   And then you can sell those improvements to somebody else.  

COIN-11: When a boot is here long enough, they can harvest some coin helping with events on weekends.


I have more I want to add plus a few clarifications. You could be any type of resident to do these, not just a boot.

COIN-12: Besides the bootcamp BRK that Paul linked to above, there is also the main Biological Reverse Kickstarter.
The BRK programs are where you post pictures or videos of your activities or point of view at wheaton labs and then permies.com users pay you coin and/or other gifts for doing that. Usually, after you've posted for a certain number of days. Click the links to those threads to find out more.

COIN-13: Producing food for wheaton labs in 2020. I have a BIG list of food basics (produce, eggs, chickens are all possible) that we are not yet growing ourselves and will likely not yet be growing in 2020. This could be any where from $2,000 to $10,000 per year if someone wanted to get some serious food production up and running. I tried to sign up for a local organic (actually Montana Homegrown standard which is better than organic) CSA this year (2019) and they were sold out. So I imagine there could be additional market for your food production beside wheaton labs.

COIN-14: Selling wheaton labs event tickets. We offer healthy kickbacks for selling event tickets. We'll be planning more events and setting up dates for next year (2020) soon, so this is a great way to have a win-win-win.

A word about a few that Paul mentioned in the boots thread.

COIN-1: Jocelyn bounties. These have been anything from installing our weather station, to building a planter box, to selling stuff on eBay and there are lots more random things such as clothes mending, handyman/woman type items on the list.

COIN-6: Help with rentals - Coco and I are still optimizing our systems for this, but once we have a busier schedule, we could certainly use (and have paid residents) for cleaning / changeover help with rentals.

COIN-9: See this permies.com thread about Patreon for more info on how that works.

COIN-11: Help with events - again, we're still optimizing, and there are things we need to have in place, but we would certainly love to pay for help, or even a COOK for some (or eventually many?) events!

Ask questions here! We'll try to add more info about these things as we are able.
We had some folks worried about camping here - that they would not have water. The event they were attending (the 2019 ATC) was almost entirely at base camp, where there is plenty of water.

Even for camping at the lab, where we don't yet have a well, it's fairly easy to load up on water at base camp and take that to lab. Here's a summary I posted about the two properties in our wheaton labs rental thread:

Jocelyn Campbell wrote:wheaton labs is comprised of two pieces of property:

base camp

base camp is a ROCKY, very hilly chunk of land with a steep rise culminating in a 500 foot little peak that we call the "hollowed out volcano with good submarine access" and has:

  • good well water
  • on-grid electricity
  • wifi
  • outdoor willow feeder "willow bank" (like an outhouse)
  • outdoor (rockety wood-heated hot water) shower shack


  • the lab

    The lab is two miles from base camp along a paved, then gravel, then steep dirt-sometimes-mud-or-snow-adventure road. It is a much larger, more diverse, forested property surrounded by US forest land. lab features include:
  • off-grid
  • no wifi
  • solar electric power via the small "voltzwagon" at Allerton Abbey
  • solar electric power via the "solar leviathan" at Cooper Cabin
  • no water source yet (bring water from base camp)
  • limited cell service, some places no cell service
  • two outdoor willow feeders - "the chateau de poo" and the "willowonka" (next to Cooper Cabin)
  • lots of wildlife - including black bears, so please store food properly to avoid attracting bears


  • Tom Condon wrote:This is the manual laundry machine mentioned above:


    I have the ingredients for making my own laundry soap, soap flakes, Borax, and Washing Soda, is that acceptable? I also have a wash system I purchased, but have yet used full time.


    Hi Tom, we try to limit the use of Borax as much as we can, though we do use it a little bit / once in a while. I'm not entirely sure, but I think just soap flakes and washing soda would be milder and more biodegradable without the Borax - maybe more for daily use without the Borax.

    One of the ATC class favorites this last week was Tadka Dhal. Which I converted to large group quantities here:

    Tadka Dhal (in shareable-viewable Google Sheets document).

    1 week ago
    You all are awesome!!