Jocelyn Campbell

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Jocelyn's life is all about balance. Maybe that's why she's an accountant and is such an advocate for keeping our natural systems healthy.
As a child, she perched on branches, collected moss and fungus, caught frogs and snakes, and climbed up into swaying tree forts in her beloved Pacific Northwest woods. Then, as a teenager, she learned that reining in sugar kept her more alert and energetic. These youthful observations grew into passions for walks in the woods, gardening, herbal remedies, and natural parenting with whole and traditional foods. More recently, Jocelyn's interest in the natural and healthy led to all things permaculture and she completed her first permaculture design course in 2010.
Jocelyn enjoys helping 1- and 2- person micro-businesses spend less time on their bookkeeping, or putting on feast nights at wheaton labs (the permaculture community where she lives with her guy, Paul Wheaton), or helping achieve further world domination for the richsoil.com/permies.com empire.
Missoula, MT
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Ahem. This.

It's better than pumpkin spice latte time. Or it's an antidote.

Or an alternative world view...
12 hours ago

Ryan Bahl wrote:Ok great. Are there any childcare options if we both do the workshop?

Jocelyn Campbell wrote:

Ryan Bahl wrote:Thanks Jocelyn. Do you know approximately how much cabin rentals are? alternately, how far is the lab from Missoula, if the 3 of us should stay there? My wife is also considering attending, so we're trying to figure out logistics.



wheaton labs is within an hour (one way) of Missoula.

$30-$60 per night, rustic, simple accommodations at wheaton labs.



Sorry no childcare options.

21 hours ago
R, that sounds like a reasonable business plan to me, to get mortgage-free, develop residual income, and live off your own homestead food first - which could take years, understandably so - and then look at a homestead business model.

R Jay wrote:Because of this, forming a business plan seems like putting the cart before the horse  while paddling up a creek without
a paddle.


Hm, I think this might be the case some times, and for some business plans. And I think a lot of permies have already done the mortgage-free and get out of debt stuff.

Frankly, I'm still learning about business plans myself, despite helping small businesses with their accounting for over 30 years.

I think there is a way a business plan, similar to a budget or goal setting, could help steer one's decisions and actions in a more conscious direction. Plus, it gives an ordered format for review by a friend, mentor or advisor.

I'll never forget being about 22 years old, and a financial counselor helping me find things I had not included in my family budget - such as annual auto licensing, annual memberships, etc.  Plus, it also helped that she gave feedback on whether my budget seemed reasonable or not and had references to national averages for spending categories. I think having someone else look over one's business plan to provide reasonableness feedback on market, pricing, obstacles, etc. could be pivotal and important help. When we're too close to something, we don't always see pitfalls even if they are a gaping chasm in front of us (like that mortgage...).

Business plans are required for most business loans, though I don't think that's quite as applicable to a lot of permies. And yes, for loans, grants, etc. there is FAR more scrutiny and paperwork involved.

I popped back in to this thread because something came in to my inbox:  a webinar on a one-page business plan (register and more info link here). It's through SCORE, so it's free, and if I weren't preoccupied with other things I'd be interested in attending myself.

I've heard about SCORE over the years but have never taken advantage of their services.

21 hours ago

Ryan Bahl wrote:Thanks Jocelyn. Do you know approximately how much cabin rentals are? alternately, how far is the lab from Missoula, if the 3 of us should stay there? My wife is also considering attending, so we're trying to figure out logistics.



wheaton labs is within an hour (one way) of Missoula.

$30-$60 per night, rustic, simple accommodations at wheaton labs.

Ryan Bahl wrote:Ok great. Can we book something there for oct 8-12, or do we just show up and find something?

paul wheaton wrote:

Ryan Bahl wrote:Hi, I'm interested in the workshop. I'm traveling with my wife and 1 year old, who would not be attending. We haven't previously attended. Would we each have to pay 100 to stay there? would it be better to stay elsewhere in Missoula and I drive to the workshop each day?



Maybe rent a structure or a bunk here - and your fam can hang out while you play with the natural building stuff?


You'd book something. First step is to register for the event, then I will send more info on what rentals are available.

As you may or may not know, wheaton labs is two pieces of property, base camp, and the lab, separated by two miles (down a paved, then gravel, then dirt some times mud adventure road where high clearance vehicles are recommended). base camp is on-grid, has full utilities and wifi. the lab is off-grid, has limited cell phone reception, has two willow feeders (dry toilets), and pretty much all water for drinking, washing, or bathing, needs to be brought in (from our good well water at base camp).

Allerton Abbey, the site of this workshop, is located on the lab, though meals and showers will be available at base camp. Your wife and child would be on their own for their food, though workshop attendees are invited to dine at Paul's table.

It looks like there will be some limited off-grid cabin availability on the lab. We would have carpooling in our van available between the two properties for event attendees.

Alternatively, at base camp, there will be space in the shared bunk bedroom in the Fisher Price House, and there might even be a private cabin available (bedroom only, no bathroom or kitchen - you could use the bathroom in the Fisher Price House, but the kitchen will be too busy to be available for separate cooking) - I'm still confirming that one.

I've given kind of a thorough reply because traveling with little ones often means knowing these kind of things in advance!

raven ranson wrote:I want to go with cardboard for devious reasons.

If a shop wants stands for any old book, they can go and buy the stand themselves.  If I'm providing a free stand, then I want to put some branding on it to help sell my book. 

Since my branding is eco-friendly, then I really want an easily recyclable stand.

But I don't know if this is a real thing.  I wish it was.



Good on you, raven! Sorry if I derailed things a bit. Was doing a quickie, drive-by posting, I guess. Best of luck figuring it out!!

2 days ago
I have a simple, folding metal stand, with rubber tips on the ends, that I use to hold my cookbooks on the counter. I was looking for something like it on Amazon and I found these:

https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN/B00NEDHM2E/rs12-20 (affiliate link).



Not sure if the Canadian Amazon has them. In US $ they are only $14.99 for a set of 12!

While cardboard could be recycled more easily, I'd think that these would be so handy that they would likely get used again and again. Especially at a bookstore!




2 days ago
Maureen, it sounds like you are doing an amazing job "juggling flaming swords." I'm impressed by your tenacity and openness in sharing here. Thank you.

I've skipped over replying to others and with more thoughts - only because I am now hitting the ground running with 3 back-to-back weeks of events here.

I'm filling in for about 3 roles in addition to my normal 3 part-time jobs. So for a bit, I'll have the equivalent of about 5 part-time jobs. 5 x 15 hours (low estimate) = 75 hours per week...if I'm lucky.

And I *am* lucky in that I am feeling better than my recent rather pathetic average - so I'm starting out in good shape. Plus there have been lots of offers of help, too.

2 days ago

Greg Harness wrote:In partial response to the original question about what apps might be helpful, this was just posted today on David Allen's Getting Things Done website:
What Are The Best Apps For Getting Things Done


Ooh, I like the reminder in this article about the recommended GTD basic lists.

And, I *really* like the questions to ask before choosing an app.

Thanks Greg!
2 days ago