Sam Bush

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For me, this raises more questions than it answers:

Is primary water a renewable resource?
In other words: Is it renewed by nature at a speed at least as fast as the speed of its consumption by humans? And here we should pause and consider the current mainstream thinking paradigm of (theoretically) limitless economic growth, limitless consumption, urbanisation, and all the other "wonders" of our times.

Is the technology for drilling for primary water accessible to everyone? Can Farmer John from Anywhere drill a well to extract primary water from under his fields? (And here we're not even considering the geology of the place...)

Given the law of unintended consequences, what happens when abundant *primary* water is made available in arid regions? Can you or anyone predict with a fair degree of certainty that the sudden abundance of water in, say, Kenya will only lead to desirable things? We know of cases from history where the availability & intensive extraction of a resource led to the over-use and depletion of that resource, AND to a re-shaping of the socio-economic fabric of communities, with far-reaching consequences.

Here's this example of (unintended) effects of water (from bore holes) being made available in an arid zone:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0167564803800205
and this:
https://conservancy.umn.edu/bitstream/handle/11299/60229/8.3.Radatz.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y



All those questions are answered on the primary water website.  The Primary Water Institute is dedicated to teaching what is known about the volcanic origin of water

It's a forever source of water relative to how long the earth has been here.  It is generated deep in the earth. Major sources of water all over the world have been running from it for 1000's of yrs as mentioned.

It can be drill for since they have done it 100's of times and it's not any deeper than any other wells presently people drill for, just into rock instead which they do. Go to website and see the video's of them doing it.

Those links you gave is for the ground water and not much deeper Primary Water

The Garlock Project - Drilling for Primary Water in the Tehachapi’s

Drilling a Primary Water Well - Jamestown California

Africa - Maji Mengi - Abundant Primary Water well, from Global Resource Alliance

What is Primary Water? Pal Pauer in Nevada City.  2 hour lecture on it

Youtube Channel with 25 video's on Primary Water


Pal Pauer -The Final Interview. Deborah Tavares covers his early years and intro to primary water
This is the final interview of the Hungarian Water Wizard Pal Pauer.  Apr 21, 2022  Deborah Tavares recaps Pal's early life and his commitment to providing primary water to many thirsty people around the globe.  Watch all 3 podcasts
2 years ago
If you are going to drill a well or have the money, drill into rock. There are oceans of water far below the aquifer. It is under pressure and comes up thru vertical rock fissures. Once tapped it doesn't stop, unless rarely an earthquake might alter water path thru the rock. It has been drilled for since the 1920's but it's hardly mentioned since water control is power and unlimited water is not wanted. Search, primary water.

Since antiquity, the source of water generated deep within the Earth, clearly defying the conventional scientific hydrologic cycle explanation, has been a mystery. How does one explain sources of water throughout the world that produce impressive quantities of fresh water, often in dry areas with little rainfall or at high altitudes?  Besides numerous oases in Sahara, Arabic Peninsula, Middle East and the driest deserts elsewhere, and countless springs at mountain tops worldwide, there are clear examples of this phenomenon which stand out, like the Ain Figeh spring near Damascus, the Montezuma Well in the Sonora Desert in Arizona or the Zamzam well in Mecca."

A spring in Oregon flows at 690 million gallons a day, a spring in Missouri flows at 800 million gallons a day called Big Springs, MO., and a series of springs along the Snake River in Idaho flow at 3.5 billion gallons a day." all primary water

In the 1950's, flooding impeded construction of the Tecolote Tunnel through the Santa Ynez Mountains.  By its composition and the depth at which it was encountered, the thirteen million gallons a day was not rainwater.  Some of the water was hot, as much as 117 degrees Fahrenheit, and mineralized, some was cool and exceedingly pure.  The flows were stopped so construction of the six-mile long tunnel to connect Santa Barbara to the Cachuma Reservoir could continue."  

Stephan Riess, spent decades himself in quest of primary water, and is an early pioneer in the field, as described in the book,"New Water for a Thirsty World" by Michael Salzman. In 1958, Israel's Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion asked Stephan to find primary water to supply a new city, and port on the Red Sea, under construction.   In May 29,1959, the Jerusalem Post announced that the Riess-located wells were sufficient to supply a city of more than 100,000 people, enough to supply the city of Eilat, and outlying villages. — Link

"One cubic kilometer of granite, under the right conditions, will yield one billion gallons of primary water." — Stephan Riess

"Primary water wells are not a new phenomenon.  Stephan Riess was drilling wells all over California and in the Middle East as far back as the early 1930s.  Pal has traveled to Africa numerous times, drilled six wells in Kenya and Tanzania, producing over 3,000 gallons per minute in an arid land with less than 10 inches of rainfall per year."

The Science of Water  
NEW SCIENTIST: Planet Earth makes its own water
WATER Journal - Information about water
Earth's Deep Water Cycle - ISBN978-0-87590-433-7
USA Today - Hydrogen & Oxygen trapped inside the Earth's Mantle Rock
Are there oceans hiding inside the Earth? BBC
2 years ago
I know this doesn't mean much since the word has so many different meanings but to me 20 some years ago when I heard it. It meant a growing ecosystem that when properly set up, even a food forest, that it will continue without man's further help. Such as what happened in Jordan with Geoff Lawton's desert experiment. To me that's permanent which I assumed perma meant.

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8 years ago
I live in coastal region of Calf. by a creek and it has high humidity. My cats got flees a couple years ago and I tried DA on their fur and on my carpet floor's in my RV but I didn't wait long enough, weeks, and did not keep changing and cleaning things. So I just got the flee killer stuff one rubs in the back of the cat's necks and that cured the cats of their flees but not my RV. What I got was a powerful ozone generator kit for for $99. called "Basic Build 3500 mg/h Ozone Generator"and they have stronger ones that cost much less than elsewhere, just google it. This thing is so strong it caused my lungs to be irritated to breath it, I had to hold my breath when I set the timer till I got outside. Well supposedly it can destroy "all odors", molds, fungus's, germs, viruses and small bugs. I left it run for 8 hours on a timer in my closed up RV, then opened up all the windows to air it out. It had a slight smell for a few days which went away but it seemed to stop anymore flee bites I was getting with in a few more days and any other smells were destroyed too. I haven't had any more since then.
11 years ago