thiago gallas

+ Follow
since Jun 12, 2013
Merit badge: bb list bbv list
For More
Apples and Likes
Apples
Total received
In last 30 days
0
Forums and Threads

Recent posts by thiago gallas

Agree, totally. But firstly I would search for models. In expensive situations like my country, to rise your standards of living is much harder than lower it. So, I would suggest getting in touch with people first, the more you can, from any culture, but especially from your own.

So now, any ethics and sustainability plans are left behind, just like holistic management, when you choose a secondary goal that will take you to action, to meet in the future, your final goal.

MODEL EXAMPLE: I got a friend that started a little permaculture site. He built a skate board ramp and a little bar. From the money that he earns with this venture he can now, start doing some permaculture.

LIMITATIONS: He had to buy a place where it is more suited to a bar, rather than a place to grow food or a place where you might have some peace of mind. This could be a big cost to pay for the majority of permaculture lifestyle seekers, even for him, but that is the price to pay sometimes.

POTENTIALS: Your future can hold what your money can buy (very true in Brazil). Lots of brazilians can not afford good food, so if you can afford to buy your own place, this can be a luxury around here. My friend’s model is simple and smart; he designed his plan strongly linked with a positive cash flow (the bar).

EXAMPLE FROM THE UK
“It may be surprising to hear that 50% of the initial private investment went on purchasing the land, and the other 50% on setting up the yurt camp. It’s worth considering the full cost of setting up your livelihood before purchasing land, as without that capital investment you could find yourself in financial difficulties very quickly. Doug and I are also self-employed and still currently earn money outside High Nature Centre as the business is predominantly seasonal at present.”
Hi guys,

3 years has past since I came back from Australia, working there in the most famous permaculture farms between Noosa and Tasmania was an experience that I will always recommend. I find no trouble to figure out how to set up a permaculture farm or a permaculture institute in a developed country where the lower cost of living (or a predictable cost of living) creates an environment where people feels inevitably more comfortable to make a step towards any change.

Countries like Brazil (like Turkey where they have a similar economical structure) mistakes can cost years of your life, to not talk about other troubles that all Latin Americans suffer (if you want to go deeper read "The Open Veins of Latin America" Eduardo Galeano - It is free in his website - great book!).

So, here is the question:

HOW WOULD OPERATE AN IDEAL PERMACULTURE FARM IN BRAZIL IN YOUR OPINION?

Like any other farm business or more like a school, a big farm example or a small farm example, etc...



Aqui vai uma pergunta:

COMO VOCE ACHA QUE UMA PROPRIEDADE IDEAL DE PERMACULTURE OPERARIA NA SUA OPNIÃO?

Como um modelo de negócio ou como uma escola, um exemplo de uma grande fazenda ou uma pequena propriedade, etc...
Will check that out! Thanks a lot.
10 years ago
Thanks Elliot,

The ideal would be to at least grow 10% from nuts, as I live in a really expensive country (mostly because of taxes), I am still not sure if it will be 2 to 3% of the total orchard. I heard that in the US you guys have pretty good nuts, do you know any good source of nuts for plantations? Cheers
10 years ago
Yes, I will start from bare root seedlings and my plan is to grow between the pecan rows Bracatinga (Mimosa scabrella) a medium size leguminous tree that grows fast, is a native tree, and around the 2 world war, use to be the preferred fuel for trains around this area. It will be a 10 hectare orchard plus 4,2 hectare of native forest. Different cultures will be considered in the future according to the local economy.
10 years ago
Hi everybody,

I am searching for a piece of land in south Brazil to grow pecans. As I just found an affordable land, I am questioning myself the depth of the soil? There is a "popular" saying around here to avoid places where people used to grow cassava if you want to grow trees, as if rain would wash the soil through decades of harvesting the root. As it is almost impossible to be sure the history of the land, can anyone give a hand on soil depth?

Thanks
10 years ago
Thats a very cool project! How did you guys get financial support?
What place are you? Do they have website? Cheers
It is quite hard to find people that can speak english in brazil. But I can and I know some people that does... in the south you have more chance to find educated people, and in the north things are not so easy I would say. It is a big country, so it depends on where you are. Check:

https://www.facebook.com/redepermaculturasocialbrasileira

permacultura.org.br

have a good one!