Jason Bagnall

Abe, thanks for the reply,

gotcha

Abe,

Were you able to sell the smoked ham as a "cottage industry" product, I.e. caveat emptor with little regulation? I wonder if the same could be performed for cold cured meat products. My girlfriend sells her homemade cookies alongside her ceramic art, and if I recall correctly she said as long as it bears a label with the ingredients stating: "not produced in a US blah blah inspected facility", and she collects no more than 25k net profit, she's right as rain.

Thanks,

JasonB

Hey Miles,

Thanks for the greeting.

Thought I'd drop a line in this area for sake of completeness.

I've been following permies.com for a couple of years as a lurker.

I'm now getting closer to graduation (post-secondary) and beginning to dream of land ownership/stewardship,
and joining the larger movement of self-sufficiency and harmony with nature, i.e. permaculture.

I had a question (which has since been answered elsewhere in the forum) and thus I joined.

I'm really looking forward to participating, and am grateful that such a great community of people have come together to pave the way.

-Jason Bagnall

Thanks Dave,

Per that post I'm thinking I'll "seed" the bed with some sort of fungal inoculation per http://www.fieldforest.net/ .
I had planned on only planting some sort of green manure seed mix this growing season (if for no other reason then it's
almost August).

-Jason

A person in this thread seems to have had success using thus type of elm in hugelkultur, I'll pm him, and ask if he would mind providing an update here, or in the original post.

https://permies.com/t/28547/hugelkultur/Siberian-Elm-Hugelkulture
https://permies.com/t/28581/fungi/Fungi-breaking-allelopathic-substances-Siberian

Hey Stephen,

Thanks for the great reply. Looking at the document you posted it certainly seems I have a species of elm, and given that I don't see any counter-indications (compared to my observation) listed in the data sheet, I'd say Siberian is a winner!

Given this:

http://warnell.forestry.uga.edu/SERVICE/LIBRARY/index.php3?docID=160&docHistory%5B%5D=2

It seems American elms have considerable allopathic effect,
and Chinese and European White elms have moderate effect.

though this would seem to indicate the leaf litter (of the Siberian Elm) has considerable allopathic effects:

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/256504650_Allelopathic_potential_of_invasive_Ulmus_pumila_on_understory_plant_species

Oh bother, now I'm not sure what to do re. Hugelkultur...

ps the "fruiting bodies" you see are actually a part of the texture of the table the leafs are sitting on.

Greetings Miles,

Thanks for the welcome! I went out this morning and scoured the area for seeds/flowers/pods etc. and came up empty.
Given the time of year, I'd say that either it doesn't produce any, it's an very late bloomer, or they're extremely tasty to
the local fauna (searched through the underbrush for remnants and nadda).

If it helps, the tree is a prolific sap producer, and it smells a bit funky. Hopefully that's not a bad sign.

-Jason

The limb I felled for the presumptive Hugelkultur

Greetings permies!

Long time lurker, first time post-er.

I really appreciate all that this community has to offer, and hope that I can contribute meaningfully in the future.

In any case, I've been listening to "The Duke's" podcasts and gather that allopathic considerations are important when choosing
Hugelkultur wood. As this will be my first Hugel-Bed (and will be laboring by hand, alone) I'd like to get it "right" the first time.

So, hopefully some kind soul happens upon this post and recognizes the tree species in question.

Thanks in advance,

-Jason

p.s. disclaimer: I did look for threads involving tree ID resources, in addition to reading my extension offices' .pdf regarding my local tree species (nothing jumped out at me).

that document is here:

http://www.oakgov.com/msu/Documents/publications/e2332_id_trees.pdf