Ray Cecil

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since Aug 04, 2014
Just another dude trying to make it, just like you.
Taylorsville Kentucky
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Adam Chisholm wrote:Ray, We're establishing a permaculture homestead (and hopefully multiple streams of income off the land in the future).  We've got 16.5 acres in Mercer County (Harrodsburg Area) and the land here is fairly affordable, the code enforcement people scarce and the codes while present are largely ignored if you have more than 10 acres and are zoned agricultural.  Good luck on your adventure, I'd love to get in touch once you're down here.  We are building a timber frame and strawbale home which we will be chronicling here on permies as we go; right now we've broken ground and are getting ready to set footers.  Cheers.


Did you ever get that strawbale/timber frame home built?
1 year ago
Well, she was asking $150,000ish at one point. Now she wants $172,000. So....I don't think its going to sell that high. For what it is, I think it is well over priced for our area. Not that I have gotten any interest from anyone anyway. Just in case you had looked at this and was curious. I hope she sells it that high, would sure make my property value go way up!

I think its 5.6-5.7 acres. Has a pond. I think it is a 5 bed, two bath double wide. its over 2000 square feet, I think she said 2400. So its a bigger double wide. Has a mix of slope and good tillable areas. It takes me only 25 minutes to get to good jobs in Louisville. We are about 7 miles from downtown Mt. Washington KY. About 15 minutes to downtown Taylorsville. This property is in Spencer County and has a Taylorsville address. Spencer county schools are better than Bullitt and Jefferson county. School bus already comes to pick my kids up, so if you have kiddos no need to worry about getting them to school.

PM me if interested. I think she said she'll be asking around $150,000, but I doubt it'll go that high. I paid $125,500 for mine two years ago and I have 5 acres, a pond, and a 1200 sq ft double wide, but also had two pole barns and slightly better lay of land. The bigger house is probably the reason she is starting high. It was her dad's place, and she owes almost nothing on it.

I have started a Permaculture farm just two doors down. So naturally, I'd love to get more permies out here. Across the street is a 16 acre farm with llamas and horses. Next to that is smaller farm with cattle maybe 2 dozen. Every lot has at least 5 acres back here. We are sort of a nice little hidden spot back here, not a lot of people know about it. Mix of properties, some with trailers that barely pass as a shack, and a couple of large high dollar homes with gates. So its a good mix.

Google earth pic attached
1 year ago

Tj Jefferson wrote:Ray,

I use those large stalks from corn, sorghum and pampas grass as a boundary on the hugels so that the vines (bindweed, honeysuckle, etc) take longer to invade. My hope is that by the time they make it in there, I have long term plantings that will take most of the light. I am trialling comfrey as a border/rhyzome barrier as well, but I don't have enough comfrey yet to do all the hugels.

I will try to take a picture by the hugel where it is still visible.

TJ, that is a good idea.

So far I do not see much use for the left over canes after processing for juice. I might have to get their left over canes and do some experimentation. I'm thinking send them through the chipper after they have dried out a bunch and see if I can make material than can be spread as mulch to suppress the poison ivy growth in my little patch of woods. A little vinegar and dish soap, plus a heavy coat of chipped/shredded sorgham stalks. That might help. My woods is so overgrown with understory, its impossible to use the area for anything. I'm going to have to get the gravely brush hog in there and then mulch.
1 year ago
Ya'll. I've got a friend here in KY that grows a bunch of Sorghum. They started a new family tradition. Everyone harvest, presses and makes syrup together. Last year they didn't know what to do with the leftover stalks. So a friend of theirs let them dump it all down in a hollar. I was wondering what uses they might be on my permaculture farm for the spent canes. I don't have animals to graze it yet. Mulch? Fibers for cob structures? Will is break down in compost? I'd like to let them dump it all here in about a month if I can use it. Thanks.
1 year ago
Wow, no replies huh?

Well, I am thinking about experimenting with this idea. I had nearly the same idea while coming up with a method of using earth to finish my pole barn interior walls. I stumbled upon this youtube video. I think I will experiment with this on one section of wall to see how it performs. Basically, my load bearing structure is the posts and stringers. Exterior steel panels give the building a monolithic envelope of rigidity. I can simply take some 1" x 2" slats and nail them across the posts. And build the walls up like this guy did. I will put a moisture barrier at the base, and weep holes to allow moisture to escape. Also I will line the air gap between the earth wall and the steel with straw for insulation.

1 year ago
I see the original poster did not reply. However I am dragging this thread back to life.

I have a 40' x 60' brand spankin' new pole barn. I am considering doing cob on the interior walls, and possible cob flooring.

Any cob experts want to give me advice?

1.) Can I park a 4000lb car or truck on a earthen/cob floor? Should I add a little concrete to the mix?
2,) If I use cob on the interior walls, how might that effect the moisture buildup between the cob and exterior metal panels? Is this a bad idea?
3.) Would a "wattle and daub" layer on the interior walls with an air gap between the metal panel and wattle/daub interior wall breath better? Maybe stuff some straw in between for insulation?
1 year ago
I have 5 acres. I'm doing permaculture near Louisville KY in Taylorsville. If you are in the area, and looking for a good neighborhood and property with other like minded folk nearby, PM me.

Two doors down is 5.6 acres. Large pond. 4 bedroom double wide, a little woods, open areas. THis property is for sale word of mouth and I have the inside scoop. Asking is $140,000. A bargain this close to Louisville.

2 years ago

Shannon Lawson wrote: I saw your post when researching permiculture in Kentucky.  I live in Nashville, but grew up in Taylorsville and I am beginning to start plans to work on the land I grew up on an established a Pirmaculture situation. I'm interested in getting together with you when the opportunity arises .

Well, its been right at a year since I last posted. Shannon, turns out we found a piece of land we liked better than the one in Coxs Creek, wanna guess where? Taylorsville! Five acres, a fish pond, two pole barns and a really nice double wide. Im adding onto the pole barn in two weeks. Unfortunately this past year and a half has been rough. I haven't had the time to focus on permaculture. I lost my big sister to cancer last year, and my father just passed from a heart attack this past March. But things are getting slowly better. My widowed mother is trying to buy the five acres next door to me. So we will have a ten acre operation. The other neighbor wants to sell her five acres too...so Shannon...maybe you can jump on it? And we have have a 15acre two family operation?  Ray.cecil.3@gmail.com for more info. Pm me there.
2 years ago

Tj Jefferson wrote:I'm going out on a limb and suggesting these are in the mint family, not amaranth. The leaves are perfectly opposed. Is the stem square? Possibly monarda... Will know when it flowers.

2 years ago