Robbie Asay

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Trace Oswald wrote:

Robbie Asay wrote:with those that became entitled to tell us how to run things because they paid for it.  



In fairness, that is a different situation in my mind.  If people directly help you pay for something, I believe they should have some say in how things are run.  If they help pay indirectly, like purchasing videos that Paul made or something, I don't believe that entitles anyone to have any say.



When people join a discussion board they do so because they have an interest.  If they decide to stay it's because there's something they like about it that warrants sticking around, such as the community that develops.  Most often that's a direct result of the owners vision and why they started the board.  That doesn't mean that they aren't open to suggestion but it does mean that they aren't obligated to use those suggestions no matter how good they may appear to the person making them.

The same is true when asking for funds to pay for the site in some way.  If people enjoy the content that much that they are willing to volunteer some cash for it, that's exactly what it is, you are contributing to assist in the continuation of what you like.  Many times there are goodies offered and maybe tier packages based on the amount paid.  But one thing is very clear; you are only getting what is offered and what you pay for.  At no time is that an invitation to be able to influence the direction of the board. The owner still owns the board, you aren't buying a stake in it and one is not being offered.   This is a unfortunate but common misconception.  

If I help someone pay their rent they are under no obligation to allow me to tell them how to keep their house.  I merely assisted them in being able to continue to live there because their friendship(or in this case community) is worth it.

r ranson wrote:My understanding is that permies runs in the red - Paul pays for it out of pocket.

I often wonder what would happen if it didn't.  If it was 100% community funded.

But for now, we do the best we can with what we have.  Moderating is a soft science and every situation is unique.  



We had community donations and it was a double edge sword.  On one hand the site was funded most of the time.  On the other it took an extreme amount of work and encouragement to get there then deal with those that became entitled to tell us how to run things because they paid for it.

Moderating is often a thankless job because those who can't see behind the curtain also can't see how much work it takes to hash things out objectively.  They don't understand that discussion boards are NOT subject to free speech, don't understand how free speech works(because a discussion board is not a government entity) and only see the end result.  
I was a moderator back in the dial up days and an admin later.  This isn't my first rodeo posting to this kind of topic.   My favorite analogy has always been something like this:

This website/forum is a privately owned entity much like your house or the apartment you lease. This is Paul's space or intellectual property.  It's his online living room that he has invited others to hold conversations.

In the same way that you would not enter someone's home or private space and tell them how to run it or else you'll leave, its disrespectful to do so here.

I always invited those who disagreed to start their own forums if they didn't like the way I ran them.   To this day as far as I'm aware no one has, or if they did they weren't as successful.  Many who disagree aren't willing to do the work themselves, yet are willing enough to disagree in someone else's privately owned space when things don't suit them.

Hi to everyone! I know I'm not on hardly at all but I read a lot!

Kathleen Sanderson wrote:

Matt Walker wrote:The only Masai that were carnivores are the warrior caste, the ones who need to be smartest and strongest and fastest.  They save the superior nutrition for the people who need it the most.



That goes along with my thoughts, that the diet high in carbs does limit intelligence.  



Eh, no it doesn't but you aren't specifying what kinds of "carbs" you are talking about.  Complex carbs are very healthy and necessary.  Simple carbs(white and processed) are not.  Also, if you look at foods that pack the most nutrition in them(nutritionally dense) there's not a single kind of meat on any of them.

Of course no one person synthesizes the same foods the same way.  However, in order to reverse chronic disease, PREVENT chronic disease and repair damage to your body you must have the necessary nutrients.  Meat doesn't pack near as strong a nutritional punch as plants do regarding that.  Where we fail in the meat debate is that we(generalizing here) are nowhere near as physically active as we used to be and our meat is nowhere near the quality it was.  Aside from that there are no known peoples historically other than those from the highest areas of the planet who ate meat and fat dense diets.

In consideration of how long it actually takes the evolutionary process to work, unless you descend from any of those peoples it's more likely/possible you will be fueling future chronic disease.  I know, everyone says they feel fine but seriously, most people do feel fine before they get sick.

Gladiators were vegetarians and called "barley men".  Daniel and his men(as well as other biblical mentions) "fasted" by eating plants and drinking water so their minds would be clear and bodies free of impurities before battle.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/human-ancestors-were-nearly-all-vegetarians/
http://www.pbs.org/food/the-history-kitchen/evolution-vegetarianism/

OP, good luck on your experiment but please be cautious.

2 years ago
That's fantastic!  I've found out the soils on the property I'm interested in are Servilleta-Prieta complex and Petaca-Prieta complex so that's "on my list" of things I need to dig into.
3 years ago
I'm always interested in new books that come out and Zack Loeks new book "The Permaculture Market Garden: A Visual Guide to a Profitable Whole-Systems Farm Business" is no exception.  Since I'll be attempting/experimenting with this style of gardening at 8000 feet(Zone 5b : -15 to -10 (F), I'd like to know if some of the ideas in the book might work/be worth experimenting with at that elevation?

I'll be doing a lot of experimentation in trying out proven high desert methods and vegetation but there are some things such as composting(can be in the single digits and less during the night for more than a few days) can be difficult.

I'll also have to corral as much rain and snow melt as possible.  There is a community well but I'm limited to household and personal garden use only.
3 years ago
Great advice Jesse and thank you so much for doing this, and that goes for anyone that helps in big or small ways.  =)
3 years ago

Jesse Grimes wrote:I ended up coming back to the Ant Village earlier than expected, as I was heading out to support the water protectors as Standing Rock in North Dakota.  A few of us from the village worked together to build a rocket mass heater and bring it out to the camps to install in one of their winter structures and help keep the people warm while using far less firewood.  I set up a GoFundMe campaign to help pay for the materials and a trailer to bring it all out there.  Here is the link: https://www.gofundme.com/rocket-mass-heater-at-standing-rock



Jesse do you have a contact person at Standing Rock?  Someone else was asking about taking an RMH there so maybe you could coordinate with them as far as getting one out there:  https://permies.com/t/58940/Standing-Rock-stoves-winter-advise#514499

I've sent of a message to a friend there to see who I could refer people to.  Most of his family lives in Standing Rock and he is at the protest site.  An Elder requested a woodstove and I'm unsure if this is a permanent encampment(at least as far as this protest goes) where the RMH could be moved or taken apart and set up again elsewhere later.
3 years ago
I second the above post as far as staying long enough to finish the project.  The elements will be against you as it is snowing there now.  I have been there as well as have friends that live in Standing Rock and you are far from necessities even a convenient hardware store.

There was a post here from Jesse in his Ant Village video thread regarding taking one out there.  I've made a post to one of my friends there(most of his family live in Standing Rock and he's there at the protest site) asking who they could get in touch with and am awaiting a response.  An Elder requested a woodstove but if this could be taught to some of the people there so they could remove it later and install it elsewhere that would be a wonderful thing.
3 years ago